How long does it take an electron to travel 150 km on a copper cable?

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The problem involves a high-voltage transmission line made of copper, where participants are trying to determine how long it takes for an electron to travel a distance of 150 km while carrying a steady current of 1030 A. The context includes calculations related to drift speed and charge density.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the equation I = nq(vd)A to find drift speed and explore the relationship between charge, current, and time. There are attempts to calculate the cross-sectional area and questions about the correct area to use. Some participants shift focus from drift speed to calculating time directly.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning their assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct area to use, and there is a recognition of the need to clarify the approach to finding the time for an electron to travel the specified distance.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of information they can use or share. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between current, charge density, and drift speed without arriving at a final answer.

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Homework Statement


A 150 km long high-voltage transmission line 2.0 cm in diameter carries a steady current of 1030 A. If the conductor is copper with a free charge density of 8.9 1028 electrons per cubic meter, how many years does it take one electron to travel the full length of the cable?



Homework Equations



I= nq(vd)A

where A is the area
vd is the drift speed
n is the charge density
and I is the current

The Attempt at a Solution



SO we are solving for the drift speed so i thought this equation would work. i found the area first using surface area of a cylinder 2pir^2+2pirh and i got 18840.0025 because i converted cm and km both to m.
then i plugged everything else in and the answer was wrong
:(

oh yea and i used -1 for the q which is the charge. i assumed -1 b/c they are electrons
 
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goWlfpack said:

Homework Statement


A 150 km long high-voltage transmission line 2.0 cm in diameter carries a steady current of 1030 A. If the conductor is copper with a free charge density of 8.9 1028 electrons per cubic meter, how many years does it take one electron to travel the full length of the cable?



Homework Equations



I= nq(vd)A

where A is the area
vd is the drift speed
n is the charge density
and I is the current

The Attempt at a Solution



SO we are solving for the drift speed so i thought this equation would work. i found the area first using surface area of a cylinder 2pir^2+2pirh and i got 18840.0025 because i converted cm and km both to m.
then i plugged everything else in and the answer was wrong
:(

oh yea and i used -1 for the q which is the charge. i assumed -1 b/c they are electrons

wrong area. you want the cross-sectional area only.
 
ok so I am not solving for drift speed, I am slving for delta t... so now the equations I am trying are Q=(nA(x)) q

and then Q=(nAvdt)q
 
ok so now I've got an A of the cross section which is pir^2... i got .001256
so i multiplied that by 8.9*10^28 and then multiplie that by 150000m .. to get the charge. then i divide the charge by the current to get the time.. still wrong though.. any ideas
 
solve for the drift velocity (v). How long does if take for an electron moving at v to travel [itex]\delta x=150000m[/itex]? I.e., what's [itex]\delta t[/itex] in terms of [itex]\delta x[/itex] and v.
 

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