How Fast is the Distance Changing as a Particle Moves Along y=sqrt(x)?

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The problem involves a particle moving along the curve defined by the equation y = √x. The specific scenario examines how fast the distance from the particle to the origin is changing as it passes through the point (4, 2) with a given rate of change of the x-coordinate.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the coordinates of the particle and the origin, considering the use of the Pythagorean theorem to express the distance. There is an exploration of how to differentiate the distance with respect to time, and questions arise about the application of the curve's equation to find dy/dt.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the chain rule to relate dy/dt to dx/dt, and there is a recognition of the need to apply the equation of the curve. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and uncertainty about the integration aspect, with some participants expressing confusion about the relevance of integration in this context.

Contextual Notes

One participant notes that their textbook has not yet covered integration, which influences their approach to the problem. There is also a mention of the need to clarify the use of the curve's equation in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A particle is moving along the curve [itex]y=\sqrt{x}[/itex]. As the particle passes through the point (4,2), its x-coordinate increases at a rate of 3 cm/s. How fast is the distance from the particle to the origin changing at this instant?

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I made a diagram of the curve, connected the point (4,2), x=4, and the origin by a right triangle with z being the hypotenuse, x = 4, and y = 2.

so [itex]z^2=x^2+y^2[/itex], after differentiating I arrive at
[tex]\frac{dz}{dt}=\frac{1}{z}(x\frac{dx}{dt}+\frac{dy}{dt})[/tex]
i know dx/dt 3 cm/s, but I have no idea how to find dy/dt, I have a feeling that I have to use the equation of the curve but I'm not sure at all
 
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You're given the acceleration (3cm/s2) at the X-ordinates.

Maybe you should be intergrating to find the velocity.
 
bob1182006 said:
I have a feeling that I have to use the equation of the curve but I'm not sure at all
The equation is given, and you haven't employed it yet
 
Sorry I don't get what anyone is saying, so far the book hasn't taught integration so I don't think I should use it.

f(x) said:
The equation is given, and you haven't employed it yet

sry I was doing this in the middle of the night ><

so dy/dt = derivative of [itex]y=\sqrt{x}[/itex] with respect to t
but how would the chain rule work there? would it be like
[tex]\frac{dy}{dt}=\frac{dy}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}[/tex]
right? so then I'd arrive to
[tex]\frac{dy}{dt}=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}\frac{dx}{dt}[/tex]
so I'd plug in x=4, dx/dt = 3 cm/s, and obtain dy/dt
ok i think I am getting this now thanks
 
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Yes, exactly! You were told that the particle is moving along the curve [itex]y= \sqrt{x}= x^{1/2}[/itex] so, using the chain rule,
[tex]\frac{dy}{dt}= \frac{dy}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}= (1/2)x^{-1/2}\frac{dx}{dt}[/tex].
 

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