How Fast Must a Passenger Train Decelerate to Avoid a Crash?

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The problem involves a passenger train needing to decelerate to avoid crashing into a goods train. The passenger train is initially traveling at 80 m/s, while the goods train is moving at 30 m/s, with a distance of 1500 m separating them. The discussion centers around determining the necessary deceleration rate for the passenger train.

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  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to find the deceleration needed. There are attempts to equate the distances traveled by both trains and to determine the time until they would collide. Some participants question the initial conditions used in the equations, particularly whether the final velocity should be zero or the speed of the goods train.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem with various interpretations of the necessary final velocity for the passenger train. Some participants have provided guidance on adjusting the equations used, and there seems to be a productive exchange of ideas regarding the calculations involved.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is also a noted discrepancy between the original poster's calculations and the answer provided in the textbook.

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A passenger train, which is traveling at 80 m/s is 1500 m behind a goods train which is traveling at 30 m/s in the same direction on the same track. At what rate must the passenger train decelerate to avoid a crash?

My attempt at the question:
V=u+at 0=80+at a=-80/t
I tried to find at what time their distances were equal using
s=ut+1/2 (a)(t^2)
80t +1/2 (-80/t) t^2-1500=30t
Simplify and I got 10t=1500
t=150
sub value of t into original equation and you get a=-8/15 m/s^2
The back of my book says its 5/6 m/s^2
Any help would be appreciated
 
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Woolyabyss said:
My attempt at the question:
V=u+at 0=80+at a=-80/t
The passenger train does not have to stop, it just has to slow down to the speed of the freight train before crashing into it.
I tried to find at what time their distances were equal using
That is the right approach.
 
In your first equation you have used V=0, but to avoid a crash the passenger train only needs to decellerate to 30 m/s

(sorry, tms got there before me with same solution)
 
Thanks I replaced 0 with 30 in the first equation and carried out the same method as before and got 5/6 m/s^2
 

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