How Fast Must the Car Travel in the Second Half to Average 51 km/h?

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The problem involves a car traveling a total distance of 94 km, where it travels the first 47 km at a speed of 39 km/h. The objective is to determine the speed required during the second half of the journey to achieve an average speed of 51 km/h for the entire trip.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of average velocity formulas and question the application of specific calculations. There is an exploration of time taken for each segment of the journey and how it relates to average speed.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different perspectives on the calculations and formulas involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between distance, time, and average speed, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or calculations.

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Participants express uncertainty about the calculations and the implications of the average speed requirement. There is also mention of the original poster's inexperience in physics, which may influence their understanding of the concepts discussed.

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Homework Statement



A car making a 94-km journey travels 39 km/h for the first 47 km. How fast must it go during the second 47 km to average 51 km/h?

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Torquescrew said:
Hey, dude. Try using the following formula:
Average Velocity = (Final Velocity + Initial Velocity)/2

Why /2?
I have found that to go 94 km at an average speed of 51 km/h that would be 14.17m/s.
Thus if you went 47 km at 39 km/h you would be moving at 10.83 m/s.
So with this data averaging 51 km/h the entire trip would take 1.52 hours. And the first 47 km (half) would have taken 1 hour. Am I correct so far? So to find the change in time we are looking for it would be 1.52-1.00 giving you .52 hours.

I have Average velocity defined as deltaX/deltaT

deltaX = 47km and delta T = .52 Hours

Thus giving me 90.4 km/h

does this sound right? seems a bit high but maybe I am wrong, this is my first physics class ever. Thanks
 
Torquescrew said:
Hey, dude. Try using the following formula:
Average Velocity = (Final Velocity + Initial Velocity)/2

Don't think that's necessarily right. Average velocity is total distance / total time...
 
mike5754 said:
Why /2?
I have found that to go 94 km at an average speed of 51 km/h that would be 14.17m/s.
Thus if you went 47 km at 39 km/h you would be moving at 10.83 m/s.
So with this data averaging 51 km/h the entire trip would take 1.52 hours. And the first 47 km (half) would have taken 1 hour. Am I correct so far? So to find the change in time we are looking for it would be 1.52-1.00 giving you .52 hours.

I have Average velocity defined as deltaX/deltaT

deltaX = 47km and delta T = .52 Hours

Thus giving me 90.4 km/h

does this sound right? seems a bit high but maybe I am wrong, this is my first physics class ever. Thanks

I'm not tracking what you are doing. Find t1 = the time to the midway point. Calculate the total time t1+t2 from the total distance and total average velocity. That gives you t2, and you know the distance for the 2nd half of the trip...

(and no, the answer is not what Torquescrew suggested)
 

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