How Fast Was the Projectile Launched on the Moon?

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The problem involves determining the initial speed of a projectile launched vertically from the Moon's surface to an altitude of 370 km. The context includes gravitational effects and energy conservation principles relevant to projectile motion on the Moon.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations and the conservation of energy to find the initial speed. There are attempts to clarify the correct acceleration value and the appropriate equations to use. Questions arise regarding the masses involved and the correct radius to consider for calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on using conservation of energy, while others are questioning the assumptions made regarding acceleration and the radius of the Moon. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method or values to use.

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Participants note the challenge of online homework systems that provide immediate feedback, which may influence their approach to problem-solving. There is also mention of potential discrepancies in gravitational acceleration due to altitude changes.

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Homework Statement


A projectile launched vertically from the surface of the Moon rises to an altitude of 370 km. What was the projectiles initial speed?


Homework Equations


Vf ^2 = Vi^2 + 2ad


The Attempt at a Solution


distance = 370km x 1000 = 3.7E 5 meters
solving for Vi = sqroot of Vf^2 - 2ad
sqrt of 0 - -1.63 x 3.7E5 = 777m/s
 
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Check your calculations. 1.63 m/s^2 is equal to a, not 2a.
 
alright, i tried this vi=sqrt(2(1.63)(3.7)=1098, but that's wrong too, i still can't find out what I am doing wrong
 
1098 m/s is correct, unless the problem wanted you to take into consideration differences in acceleration due to the object's increasing altitude.
 
i don't know, my homework is online, so i just type in an answer, and it ells me whether I am right or wrong, and it said i was wrong. So how would i compensate for the difference?
 
You use the conservation of energy: initial kinetic energy + initial potential energy = final kinetic energy + final potential energy. Make sure to use U=-GMm/r for potential energy, not U=mgh.
 
what masses should i use?
 
Well, in U=-GMm/r, M and m are the two attracting masses. Here, one of them is the Moon and the other is the projectile. You'll find that the mass of the projectile cancels out, so you don't need to know what it is.
 
for radius, do i add in radius of the moon, or just use 370km as the radius?
 
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"r" is the distance from the center of the planet/moon to the projectile. So yes, you add the radius of the moon.
 
  • #11
i got 1.01 m/s, which is wrong
0 + G(6.67E-11*7.36E22)/21074000^2 = 1/2vi^2 + G(6.67E-11*7.36E22)/1737400^2
 
  • #12
It's U=-GMm/r not U=-GMm/r^2 f
 
  • #13
just for easier ways to put it Kf=a Uf=b Ki=c Ui=d
it should look like this
c= -b + d
 

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