How fast would a 163 Hz wave travel

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The problem involves determining the speed of a 163 Hz wave in a medium where a 1575 Hz wave travels at 823 m/s. The original poster assumes both waves are of the same type and that the medium remains unchanged.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants discuss the relationship between frequency and wave speed, noting that in a given medium, all frequencies of the same type move at the same velocity, which suggests no calculation is necessary. Others introduce the concept of dispersion, questioning the assumption that wave speed remains constant across different frequencies.

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The discussion is exploring different interpretations of how wave speed relates to frequency in various media. Some participants have provided guidance on the concept that wave speed does not change with frequency in certain contexts, while others have raised points about the effects of dispersion, indicating a lack of consensus on the assumptions made in the problem.

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There is an assumption in the original problem that the two waves are of the same type, and the discussion includes references to the effects of dispersion, which may not apply in this scenario as stated by the original poster.

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Homework Statement



A 1575 Hz wave is passing through a medium and has a speed of 823 m/s. How fast would a 163 Hz wave travel through the same medium? Assume both waves are the same type and that the medium doesn't change in any significant way.

Homework Equations



v=(wavelength)xfrequency


The Attempt at a Solution



823= w(1575)
823/1575=w=.522
.522x163=85.17

not right
 
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In a given medium, all the frequencies move with the same velocity with different wavelength.
 


thank you so much!
 


rl.bhat said:
In a given medium, all the frequencies move with the same velocity with different wavelength.


So no need to caculate velocity. Good concept.
 


You don't need to calculate anything else. As rl.bhat said, "in a given medium, all waves of same type move with the same velocity regardless of their frequencies."

Eg: Both red light and blue light move at the same speed in a given medium.
(But note that sound and light don't move at the same speed in the same medium because they are different types of waves. There is an obvious assumption in the question that the two waves are of the same type)
 


cartonn30gel said:
You don't need to calculate anything else. As rl.bhat said, "in a given medium, all waves of same type move with the same velocity regardless of their frequencies."

Eg: Both red light and blue light move at the same speed in a given medium.
(But note that sound and light don't move at the same speed in the same medium because they are different types of waves. There is an obvious assumption in the question that the two waves are of the same type)

Thanks a lot.
 


cartonn30gel said:
Eg: Both red light and blue light move at the same speed in a given medium.

This is not true. The speed of wave does change with frequency, the phenomenon is called "dispersion". The refractive index of a medium is n = c/v where c is the speed of light in vacuum and v is the speed in the given material. The refractive index is higher for blue light than it is for red. Dispersion causes the rainbow, and you observe it when a white light beam traverses through a prism.

The problem allowed to ignore this effect saying that "the medium doesn't change in any significant way" when the frequency changes.

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ehild said:
The speed of wave does change with frequency, the phenomenon is called "dispersion". The refractive index of a medium is n = c/v where c is the speed of light in vacuum and v is the speed in the given material.

That's actually right. But last time I wanted to explain things in more detail, I just ended up confusing everybody. I try to stay away from that. But I should have mentioned. Thanks
 

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