How Fx = F(4/5) in this diagram?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the relationship between the components of a force vector, specifically how the horizontal component, Fx, relates to the overall force, F, in a given diagram. Participants are exploring the trigonometric relationships involved in resolving forces into their components.

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  • Participants are questioning how to calculate the magnitude of Fx given an angle and are discussing the definitions of angles in relation to the force components. There is also a focus on the potential confusion arising from the diagram and the need for clarity in definitions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various interpretations of the relationships between the force components and angles. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definitions of angles and the importance of consistency in their use, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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There is mention of potential confusion between the angles in the diagram and the unconventional labeling of the axes, which may affect participants' understanding. Additionally, there is an indication that some participants may be struggling with the mathematical aspects rather than the physics concepts themselves.

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How Fx = F(4/5) in this diagram?
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Fx = F(4/5)
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##Fx = F\frac{4}{5}##

How Fx = F(4/5) in this diagram?

I am confused.
 
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Imagine that you are given an angle between the ##\vec{F}## and ##\vec{F_y}## instead of the small triangle in the diagram. How would you calculate the magnitude of ##\vec{F_x}##?

Then, can you find a way how to get this angle from the small triangle shown in the diagram?
 
If I am not mistaken, I would say ##\vec{F_x} = F_x.cos\theta##
Any one would be correct.
 
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Benjamin_harsh said:
If I am not mistaken, I would say ##\vec{F_x} = F_x.sin\theta## or ##\vec{F_x} = F_x.cos\theta##
Any one would be correct.

You are mistaken.

First of all, you need to DEFINE where this "θ" is. There are at least 2 angles there, one made between F and Fx, the other between F and Fy.

If θ is the angle between F and Fx, then

Fx = |F|cos θ

BTW, it appears that you are having a lot of problem with math. This really isn't a physics question. This is not meant as a put-down, but rather to make you realize the source of your problems so that you may want to do something about it. Many of my students think that physics is tough, when what they are having problems with is not the physics, but the math. It seems that you are in the same situation.

Zz.
 
Benjamin_harsh said:
If I am not mistaken, I would say
Any one would be correct.

I suggested the angle between ##\vec{F}## and ##\vec{F_y}## for a reason: I think it is easier to spot the same angle in the small triangle (just imagine that you can slide the triangle along the ##\vec{F}## toward the origin). But as already said, you can pick any of the angles, you just must stay consistent with your definition.
Also be careful "x" points vertically and "y" horizontally, that is a bit unconventional.
 

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