How High Can a Dog Jump by Exerting Maximum Force?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a dog jumping to catch a ball. The problem includes parameters such as the dog's mass, the height of its center of mass, and the maximum force it can exert against the ground. Participants are exploring how these factors influence the height the dog can achieve during its jump.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining the calculations related to the dog's jump height, questioning the method of calculating forces and displacements. Some are clarifying the assumptions about the dog's force exertion during the jump and discussing the implications of canceling terms in the equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the original poster's calculations and assumptions. There are multiple interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the exertion of maximum force and the vertical displacement during the jump.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the constraints of the problem, such as the maximum force exerted by the dog and the heights of its center of mass. There is an emphasis on avoiding rounding errors in calculations and the potential for mistakes when deriving equations.

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Homework Statement


A 11-kg dog jumps up in the air to catch a ball. The dog's center of mass is normally 0.20 m above the ground, and he is 0.50 m long. The lowest he can get his center of mass is 0.10 m above the ground, and the highest he can get it before he can no longer push against the ground is 0.40 m .If the maximum force the dog can exert on the ground in pushing off is 2.1 times the gravitational force Earth exerts on him, how high can he jump?

Homework Equations


Change in gravitational potential energy = mgΔx
Work = Force * Force Displacement

The Attempt at a Solution


Dog pushes itself to 0.6 m, then from that point the change in position is given by:
0.5*(2.1mg - mg) = mgΔx
0.5(2.1(11)(9.8)- (11)(9.8))/(11)(9.8)= Δx
0.55 m = Δx

Δx + 0.6 m = 1.15 m
 
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Comments:
You have the dog lifting itself 0.6m - how does it do this?
Does the dog exert it's maximum force all the time it is pushing on the ground?
Why didn't you just cancel out the terms of "mg" instead of calculating them?
 
if the maximum force the dog can exert on the ground in pushing off is 2.1 times the gravitational force Earth exerts on him, how high can he jump?
 
emily081715 said:
if the maximum force the dog can exert on the ground in pushing off is 2.1 times the gravitational force Earth exerts on him, how high can he jump?
thats the question
i could've canceled out the mg but calculating them doesn't change anything, they cancel out on their own
 
Yes OK - I mean what is your question?
Please answer the rest of my questions too.

Note: calculating things out adds to the chance of making a mistake, and also adds rounding errors.
If you cancel them out, then you don't need to round them off. This is why it is best practise to derive the equation first, then plug in the numbers.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Yes OK - I mean what is your question?
Please answer the rest of my questions too.
i'm asking where my error is because i believed that was the right way to do it
 
0.6 comes from the highest point of the centre of mass added to the lowest point ( 0.5 +0.1)
i'm assuming it does exert the max force at all time during the push
 
emily081715 said:
0.6 comes from the highest point of the centre of mass added to the lowest point ( 0.5 +0.1)
i'm assuming it does exert the max force at all time during the push
Over what vertical displacement is the dog able to exert a push against the ground? What work is done in the process?
 

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