How High Is a Meteor When It Accelerates Toward Earth?

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The problem involves a meteor falling towards Earth, specifically focusing on its acceleration and the gravitational force experienced by another meteor at the same altitude. The subject area includes gravitational physics and the application of Newton's law of universal gravitation.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between gravitational force and acceleration, questioning the correct application of formulas. There is confusion regarding the variables in the gravitational equation and the interpretation of mass in the context of the problem.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to clarify the relationships between the variables involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct interpretation of gravitational force and acceleration, but there is still uncertainty about the setup and calculations.

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There is a noted confusion about the number of masses involved in the problem, as well as the definitions of the variables in the gravitational equation. Participants are also questioning the assumptions made in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


A 12 kg meteor experiences an acceleration of 7.2 m/s^2, when falling towards the earth.

a.) How high above the Earth's surface is the meteor?

b.) What force will a 30 kg meteor experience at the same altitude?


Homework Equations



Fg = ma , Fg =Gm1m2 / r^2




The Attempt at a Solution



a = Fg / m, thus:

Fg / m = Gm1m2 / r^2

then:

r = √ (Fg / Gm1m2(m))

I got this far, somewhat understanding what I was doing the equation manupulation. Please help me! I searched this question up, but that thread was not helpful.

I don't know how to solve the question. The altitude is the radius from the earth? and since a = Fg / m, :S I equated this with the Fg = Gm1m2 / r^2, :|.

Please help!
 
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EE123 said:

Homework Statement


A 12 kg meteor experiences an acceleration of 7.2 m/s^2, when falling towards the earth.

a.) How high above the Earth's surface is the meteor?

b.) What force will a 30 kg meteor experience at the same altitude?


Homework Equations



Fg = ma , Fg =Gm1m2 / r^2




The Attempt at a Solution



a = Fg / m, thus:

Fg / m = Gm1m2 / r^2

then:

r = √ (Fg / Gm1m2(m))

I got this far, somewhat understanding what I was doing the equation manupulation. Please help me! I searched this question up, but that thread was not helpful.
Do you understand what "Gm1m2/r^2" means? What is G? What are m1 and m2?
A really major error is setting "a= Fg/m= Gm1m2/r^2". "Gm1m2/r^2" is the force due to gravity, not the acceleration. What you want is Fg= ma= Gm1m2/r^2.

Now, again, what are m1 and m2?

I don't know how to solve the question. The altitude is the radius from the earth? and since a = Fg / m, :S I equated this with the Fg = Gm1m2 / r^2, :|.
That wolyld be correct but you didn't! You equated it to a, not Fg.

Please help!
 
HallsofIvy said:
Do you understand what "Gm1m2/r^2" means? What is G? What are m1 and m2?
A really major error is setting "a= Fg/m= Gm1m2/r^2". "Gm1m2/r^2" is the force due to gravity, not the acceleration. What you want is Fg= ma= Gm1m2/r^2.

Now, again, what are m1 and m2?


That wolyld be correct but you didn't! You equated it to a, not Fg.


Yes I do understand what the equation: Fg = Gm1m2 / r^2 this is what my notes say (taking an online physics course, they provide notes)

G = gravitational field constant, m1 and m2 are the two masses, Fg = the force of gravity acting on each object,

r = the distance between the centres of the two masses.

this is the Newtons law of universal gravitation in the above equation form.

So ma = Gm1m2 / r^2 ??

which means r = √ (ma / Gm1m2)?

m1 would be the Earth's mass and m2 would be the meteor mass? but the mass, m2, would cancel out right?
 
EE123 said:
Yes I do understand what the equation: Fg = Gm1m2 / r^2 this is what my notes say (taking an online physics course, they provide notes)

G = gravitational field constant, m1 and m2 are the two masses, Fg = the force of gravity acting on each object,

r = the distance between the centres of the two masses.

this is the Newtons law of universal gravitation in the above equation form.

So ma = Gm1m2 / r^2 ??

which means r = √ (ma / Gm1m2)?

m1 would be the Earth's mass and m2 would be the meteor mass? but the mass, m2, would cancel out right?
It looks as if you have three different masses, m1, m2 and m. There are only two objects, so there should only be two different masses.
 
EE123 said:
ma = Gm1m2 / r^2 ??

which means r = √ (ma / Gm1m2)?

m1 would be the Earth's mass and m2 would be the meteor mass? but the mass, m2, would cancel out right?

The top equation is right, but you solved for r wrong.
And you are right about m2, it does cancel.
 

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