How important is where I get my B.S?

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The discussion revolves around the importance of the institution from which one obtains a Bachelor of Science (B.S.) degree in Electrical Engineering (EE), particularly focusing on the implications of accreditation and the potential for future graduate studies. Participants explore the merits and drawbacks of transferring to Georgia Tech versus Southern Polytechnic State University (SPSU), considering factors such as accreditation status, job prospects, and personal circumstances.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about SPSU's lack of ABET accreditation and its potential impact on standing out for graduate programs, particularly at Georgia Tech.
  • Another participant asserts that SPSU's EE program is ABET-accredited, but later acknowledges that it is not, leading to confusion about the program's credibility.
  • Some participants highlight the value of Georgia Tech's co-op program, suggesting it provides valuable experience and financial support, despite the longer time to graduate.
  • A participant mentions their personal challenges, including a low GPA and a criminal record, which may affect their eligibility for internships and graduate programs.
  • There is a discussion about whether ABET accreditation is critical for job prospects in EE, with some suggesting it may not significantly impact employment opportunities in software and electrical engineering fields.
  • Concerns are raised about the importance of regional accreditation (SACS) versus program-specific accreditation (ABET) for future educational and career opportunities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the significance of ABET accreditation for job and graduate school prospects. While some argue it is essential, others believe it may not be as critical in certain fields. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall impact of the institution's reputation and accreditation on future opportunities.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various accreditation bodies and their implications, but there is uncertainty regarding the current accreditation status of SPSU's EE program. Additionally, personal circumstances such as GPA and prior academic performance are highlighted as factors influencing the decision-making process.

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I've got one more semester left finishing up the periphery work before I transfer to a school with an EE degree to begin the core work of a program. I'm right at Georgia Tech's doorstep (although I wouldn't be able to live at home with the parents), but I don't know if paying for GT is a feasible option for me. There is another school in Atlanta called Southern Polytechnic State University (SPSU) that has an engineering program that is just starting up. So far, they don't have a graduating class so they are not accredited. This is a cause of concern, and I'm also a bit concerned that the education will not be rigorous enough to really allow me to stand out.

I do hope to go on to GT for graduate-level work, but I'm wondering if I stand out at SPSU if it's likely that I'll have a good opportunity to get into an M.S. program at GT with perhaps help on tuition from a co-op/research grant.
 
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I think you're right to be concerned about accreditation.
 
Sorry, what? Southern Polytechnic State University's electrical engineering program is ABET-accredited.
 
Georgia Tech has a great Co-op program. Essentially, you go to school one semester, co-op the next, then go to school again, then co-op... this cycle repeats until you opt out of the program or graduate. It does take you longer to graduate, but the experience and money you gain from it is fairly valuable.

Take a look here.
http://www.coop.gatech.edu/

Even if both schools are accredited, the Georgia Tech name surely carries more value.

Edit: I'm guessing you aren't eligible for HOPE? Also, I'm currently a Georgia Tech undergraduate student, so I may be able to answer your Georgia Tech related questions.
 
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MJay82 said:
I do hope to go on to GT for graduate-level work, but I'm wondering if I stand out at SPSU if it's likely that I'll have a good opportunity to get into an M.S. program at GT with perhaps help on tuition from a co-op/research grant.

If it's not SACS accredited, that's a deal-breaker. Don't go to a US school that is not regionally accredited, but SPSU appears to be SACS accredited.

If it's SACS accredited but not ABET, then that's a different issue. My experience is that ABET accreditation is not critical for EE programs, but other people might have other opinions.

The most important thing is that you end up somewhere that you can finish your bachelors. One thing that I think most undergraduates worry too much about how the degree will impact graduate work and not enough about whether they can get through the undergrad. One thing that you should do is to go to both campuses, take some classes, talk to the upperclassmen. One particular thing to pay attention to (and you can get information from upperclassmen about this) is whether there are weed-out classes.
 
I'm from the area around SPSU and actually go to a school outside of Georgia.

SPSU is SACS accredited as a master's level degree...

http://sacscoc.org/details.asp?instid=66320

I'm sorry to see it's not ABET accredited though, but neither is MIT or UC Berkeley!
 
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Yes, Farmergregor, I am unfortunately ineligible for HOPE. I graduated from H.S. in 2001 and really tanked my GPA for 2 years. I started taking classes again in January 2010, and am climbing out of the hole that I've dug for myself.

While going to GT and doing a co-op would be nice, my overall GPA is pretty low, and I also have a criminal record from 2006. Coupled with the fact that I'm 28, I don't want to continue to draw the degree out, even if I was eligible.

I'm finishing up the RETP at Gainesville State, so I'm hoping that I won't have too much trouble with my transfer.

Twofish - I feel confident that I'm capable of the work load. When I put my mind to school work, I'm adept. My physics foundation is quite strong too. But at the same time, I know I've got to just put one foot in front of the other.

Angrycitizen - unless SPSU just needs to update their website (which I hope isn't the case), this is from their EE FAQ
http://www.spsu.edu/engineering/electrical_faq.htm
It also says that a school must be ABET accredited to gain your PE license.
 
Angrycitizen - unless SPSU just needs to update their website (which I hope isn't the case), this is from their EE FAQ

I'm very sorry, but you're right. I had never searched for programs on the ABET site prior to my previous post, and I was not searching for the programs properly. It is not ABET accredited. I would highly recommend doing a program that is ABET accredited.

Again, my apologies for giving you the wrong guidance on this issue.
 
I know an engineer working at IBM who graduated from SPSU, so it is definitely possible to go there and get good jobs. Georgia Tech on the other hand has great connections to industry and a great co-op program that you could possibly use to pay for GT. With your GPA however, you might not be able to get an internship easily so I'd say stick with SPSU.
 
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Angry Citizen said:
I'm very sorry, but you're right. I had never searched for programs on the ABET site prior to my previous post, and I was not searching for the programs properly. It is not ABET accredited. I would highly recommend doing a program that is ABET accredited.

Again, my apologies for giving you the wrong guidance on this issue.


Oh, no trouble at all! I'm definitely going to shoot for GT, but otherwise I might just have to hope for the best with SPSU.

Fizex said:
I know an engineer working at IBM who graduated from SPSU, so it is definitely possible to go there and get good jobs. Georgia Tech on the other hand has great connections to industry and a great co-op program that you could possibly use to pay for GT. With your GPA however, you might not be able to get an internship easily so I'd say stick with SPSU.

This is encouraging, at the very least.

Would ABET accreditation affect my school prospects and job prospects, or just job prospects? In other words, if I could manage to make GT work for my Master's, that would turn out okay wouldn't it?
 
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MJay82 said:
Would ABET accreditation affect my school prospects and job prospects, or just job prospects? In other words, if I could manage to make GT work for my Master's, that would turn out okay wouldn't it?

My experience (which might be very different from other people's) is that in software engineering and electrical engineering no one cares about ABET accreditation or professional engineering licensing when it comes to employment. There have been efforts to institute PE licensing in those areas, but there are enough people working in EECS without licensing, that people scream every time that happens.
 

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