How Is Angular Speed Calculated After Clay Impacts a Wheel?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a wad of clay impacting a wheel, with the goal of determining the angular speed of the wheel after the collision. The context includes concepts from rotational dynamics and conservation laws, specifically focusing on angular momentum and torque.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation laws, particularly whether momentum is conserved in the system. There is consideration of how to relate the clay's linear momentum to the wheel's angular momentum.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the relationship between the clay's impact and the resulting angular speed of the wheel. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of conservation of momentum, and there is an ongoing clarification about the role of the distance from the axis of rotation in calculating momentum.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of missing information regarding forces and the nature of the clay as an external force, which raises questions about the conservation of momentum in this scenario.

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Homework Statement


A wad of sticky clay with mass 2.45 kg and velocity vi = 52.0 m/s is fired at a wheel of moment of inertia 1.2 kg m2 and radius R = 1.26 m. The wheel is initially at rest and is mounted on a fixed horizontal axle that runs through its center of mass. The line of motion of the projectile is perpendicular to the axle and at distance d = 0.842 m from the center.
Find the angular speed of the cylinder (in rad/s) just after the clay strikes and sticks to the surface of the wheel.


Homework Equations



T=rF=Iα.


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't have a textbook with me so I am trying to work through this by searching the internet and my memory. I am thinking in order to solve this you would just take the angular force times the radius and you would have torque. Then from there you would find the angular speed from the torque but I don't see how you would find the torque if the problem only gives you the velocity of the clay projectile.
 
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Since you don't have information of the forces involved, see if you can apply a conservation law to solve the problem.
 
Right as I finished typing I thought of conservation of momentum but isn't the clay piece an external force?
 
Meaning the momentum is not conserved from the initial state of the wheel to the final state.
 
mrshappy0 said:
Right as I finished typing I thought of conservation of momentum but isn't the clay piece an external force?
While the momentum of either one--clay piece or wheel--isn't conserved by itself, the momentum of the system (the angular momentum) is.
 
Oh okay! So does would the initial momentum of the clay equal mvd?
 
mrshappy0 said:
So does would the initial momentum of the clay equal mvd?
No. You must use the distance between the line of motion of the clay and the axis of rotation.
 
Which is d in this problem. Thanks for you help.
 
mrshappy0 said:
Which is d in this problem.
Ah, yes it is. :wink:
 

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