How Is Concentration of Pure Water Calculated?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the concentration of pure water, exploring the relationship between density and concentration, and the implications of defining concentration in a solution that is entirely water. Participants express confusion regarding how to quantify concentration in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the density of water is 1000 g/L and question how to find the concentration when the solution is pure water.
  • One participant suggests that to find concentration, one must calculate moles and divide by volume, leading to a calculation of 55 M based on the molar mass of water.
  • Another participant clarifies that concentration typically refers to moles of solute per liter of solvent, implying that in pure water, the solute moles are zero, thus leading to a concentration of 0.
  • There is a mention of the historical context of the definition of a liter of water and its relation to mass standards, indicating a broader discussion about measurement standards.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the concentration of pure water can be meaningfully calculated, with some arguing it is zero due to the absence of solute, while others question the implications of defining concentration in this way. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the interpretation of concentration in the context of pure water.

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There are limitations in the assumptions made about the definitions of concentration and the context in which it is applied, particularly regarding pure substances versus solutions.

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Ok density of water is 1000 g/ 1 L

I don't know isn't this 1 L composed completely of water. This is confusing me. Do find the concentration you have to find the moles and divide by 1 L. 1000/18=55 M . I thought concentration of pure water you can't find because the solution is complete water. I hope you understand what I mean. Thanks :smile:
 
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Are you confusing density with concentration? There is 1000g of water in a volume of 1L if that 1L contains entirely water...
 
sameeralord said:
Ok density of water is 1000 g/ 1 L

I don't know isn't this 1 L composed completely of water. This is confusing me. Do find the concentration you have to find the moles and divide by 1 L. 1000/18=55 M . I thought concentration of pure water you can't find because the solution is complete water. I hope you understand what I mean. Thanks :smile:

your math and equations are right. the density is just 1 kg/L as you have shown. The concentration of moles / liter is actually moles of solute / liter of solvent. so technically the solute mole would be 0, the 55 mole is actually the solvent mole. So again technically it's 0 mole /1 L so it's 0 still. The 55 is useless, and unnecessary. Just a definition thing, don't fuss over it too much. You got the big stuff right
 
water is a universal liquid or solution or whatever you can call it.

Accept its density as a universal fact !

:-p

your theory is right though but everything which we come across today has already been proved, hasnt it ? !
 
sameeralord said:
Ok density of water is 1000 g/ 1 L

I don't know isn't this 1 L composed completely of water. This is confusing me. Do find the concentration you have to find the moles and divide by 1 L. 1000/18=55 M . I thought concentration of pure water you can't find because the solution is complete water. I hope you understand what I mean. Thanks :smile:

The intent of the pre-SI system was to have 1 liter of pure water (at 4 C) weigh exactly 1 kg (at standard gravity; representing 1 kg of mass). In fact, this was still too imprecise for a metric standard. Today, the standard is a 1 kg platinum-iridium cylinder kept at a secure location in France.

http://www.essex1.com/people/speer/mass.html
 
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