How Is Doppler Velocity Calculated for Recoil Compensation in Mossbauer Effect?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the Doppler velocity required to compensate for recoil energy in the context of the Mössbauer effect, specifically focusing on the parameters related to Iron-57 and the implications of recoil in different states of matter.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of recoil energy and the resulting Doppler velocity, questioning the appropriateness of the equation used and the units applied. There is also a consideration of the differences between free atoms and those bound in solids.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the velocities discussed, distinguishing between recoil velocity and the speed of the transducer used in experiments. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas regarding the calculations and assumptions involved.

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Participants note the potential confusion between the calculated recoil velocity and the velocities cited in literature, as well as the distinction between free atoms and those in a solid state, which may affect the observed phenomena.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the Doppler velocity needed to compensate for the recoil energy.

Homework Equations


V=\frac{E_{0}}{m c}


The Attempt at a Solution


I found the recoil energy to be 1.95\times10^{-3} eV.
And for Iron-57, E_{\gamma} is 14.4KeV. Which is approximatly equal to E_{0}.
So just plugging these values into the above equation, I get 81.27m/s which seems a bit high, as many articles site around 10mm/s!

Perhaps units I am using should be in something else? Or maybe I am using the completely wrong equation?
 
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From the wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mössbauer_effect

The emission and absorption of x-rays by gases had been observed previously, and it was expected that a similar phenomenon would be found for gamma rays, which are created by nuclear transitions (as opposed to x-rays, which are typically produced by electronic transitions). However, attempts to observe gamma-ray resonance in gases failed due to energy being lost to recoil, preventing resonance (the Doppler effect also broadens the gamma-ray spectrum). Mössbauer was able to observe resonance in solid iridium, which raised the question of why gamma-ray resonance was possible in solids, but not in gases. Mössbauer proposed that, for the case of atoms bound into a solid, under certain circumstances a fraction of the nuclear events could occur essentially without recoil. He attributed the observed resonance to this recoil-free fraction of nuclear events.
 
M Quack said:


Ohhh... and of course I'm calculating it for a "Free" atom, not one bound in a solid! So the higher velocity makes sense!

Thank you so much for the help!
 
Mr LoganC said:

Homework Statement


Calculate the Doppler velocity needed to compensate for the recoil energy.

Homework Equations


V=\frac{E_{0}}{m c}

The Attempt at a Solution


I found the recoil energy to be 1.95\times10^{-3} eV.
And for Iron-57, E_{\gamma} is 14.4KeV. Which is approximatly equal to E_{0}.
So just plugging these values into the above equation, I get 81.27m/s which seems a bit high, as many articles site around 10mm/s!

Perhaps units I am using should be in something else? Or maybe I am using the completely wrong equation?

Hi,
You answer for recoil velocity seems to be correct (i get 81.47 m/s). The 10 mm/s velocity is not the recoil velocity. It is the speed of transducer, i.e. the vibrating velocity of the Mössbauer source to acquire a complete Mössbauer spectrum..1 mm/s is equal to 48.075 neV (E_{D}=\frac{E_{\gamma} v}{c}[\itex], take v=1 mm/s and you will get 48.075 neV).<br /> Cheers, Rajini
 

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