How Is Gravitational Potential Energy Calculated in a Rotating Stick Scenario?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the change in gravitational potential energy for a stick pivoting about one end as it swings from a horizontal to a vertical position. The problem involves concepts from mechanics, specifically gravitational potential energy and rotational motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the initial conditions of the stick and the need to determine the change in height of the center of mass during the swing. There are attempts to relate potential energy to height changes, and some participants express confusion about visualizing the motion and the implications for energy conservation.

Discussion Status

Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of considering the change in height rather than the absolute height. Participants are exploring different visualizations of the problem and questioning their assumptions about energy conservation in the context of the stick's motion.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of specific height information, which has led to confusion in calculating potential energy. The problem's setup involves a stick pivoting from a horizontal position, and participants are encouraged to visualize the motion accurately to understand the energy transformations involved.

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A stick with a mass of 0.170Kg and a length of 1.00m is pivoted about one end so it can rotate without friction about a horizontal axis. The meter stick is held in a horizontal position and released.

1) As it swings through the vertical, calculatethe change in gravitational potential energy that has occurred. Gravity = 9.81m/s^2

Alright So for this one I have no idea really where to begin except to find the Moment of inertia. 1/3 ML^2. Substituting I get 1/3 (.170kg) (1)^2

The problem with that is is that I don't know how to find the potential energy because there is no height given to use U=mgh. I tried to use Mgy(y is in cm) and that didnt work well because it gave me (.170kg)(9.81m/s^2)(100cm). Where would I go from here considering there is no w (angular velocity) or anything given.:confused:
 
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You are correct, you don't know the actual height, but you do know the change in height. Consider the centre of mass of the rule, a sketch may be helpful.

You don't actually need any moment of inertia calculations for this question.

-Hoot:smile:
 
The problem I guess that I'm having is visualizing the problem, the way I visualize it is a pendulum starting from the 0 or 2(pi) section and swinging to the (pi). Is this the proper visualization? If so then the maximum height would be 2m's. Then in this case it would be KE_1+PE_1=KE_2+PE_2. This way, KE_1=0, PE_1=.170Kg(9.81 m/s^2)(2m). But if this was the case then all the potential energy would convert into kinetic energy at the bottom of the swing (through the vertical). But this then yields nothing helpful, what might be wrong with my visualization?
 
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The question states that the rule begins horizontal, the rule is then release and allowed to swing freely. The question asks what the change in potential energy is when the rule is pointing vertically down. Imagine the rule is a straight horiztonal line at y = 0, the rule now pivots about the origin until it is a straight line at x = 0. Think about that displacement of the centre of mass.

-Hoot
 

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