How Is the Dielectric Constant Determined for a Rod to Prevent Light Absorption?

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The dielectric constant for a rod to prevent light absorption is determined to be 2, as derived from the equations involving Snell's law and the refractive index. The calculations utilize the relationships between the angles of incidence and refraction, specifically when the incident angle approaches 90 degrees. The discussion highlights the importance of ensuring that the refractive index, represented as \( n_1 \), satisfies the condition \( n_1 \geq \sqrt{2} \) to avoid total internal reflection. The algebraic steps leading to this conclusion were noted as potentially unclear, indicating a need for more explicit derivation in future discussions.

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## n_1 = \sqrt{ \epsilon _1} ## ...(1) ,

## n_2 = 1 ## ...(2)

## \frac { \sin {\theta_i}}{ \sin {\theta_l} } = \frac { n_1}{n_2} = n_1 ## ...(3)

## \cos{\theta_1} = \frac { n_2}{n_1} = \frac1{ n_1} ## ...(4)

According to the question, the dielectric constant should be such that even when the incident angle is slightly less than ## \frac { \pi} 2 ## , the ray should come out of the rod without getting absorbed.

So, ## \theta _i \leq \frac { \pi} 2 ## ...(5)

Taking ##\theta _i = \frac { \pi} 2 ## , ...(6) I don't know why I am taking this. ## \frac1{ \sin {\theta_l} }= n_1 ## ...(7)

## \cos{\theta_1} = \frac1{ n_1} ## ...(8)

From (7) and (8), I get

## n_1 = \sqrt{ 2} ## ...(9)

From (1), ## \epsilon _1 = n_1^2 ## ...(10)

So, that dielectric constant = 2, option (c).

Is this correct?
 

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Snell's law is written ## n_1 \sin(\theta_1)=n_2 \sin(\theta_2) ##. For this case ## n_1=\sqrt{\epsilon_{r1}} ##, and ## n_2 =1 ##. ## \\ ## ## \theta_1 ## is the angle of incidence inside the material, measured from the normal. There is a ## \theta_1 ## for which the left side of the equation is equal to 1. What happens if ## \theta_1 ## is such that the left side of the equation is greater than 1 ? Can you get a solution for the right side in that case, to determine the emerging angle of the refracted ray? ## \\ ## Editing: This problem is slightly tricky: If ## \theta_i=90^o ##,(the steepest angle of incidence at the entry point), ## \theta_r=\sin^{-1}(1/n_1) ##. The resulting ## \theta_1=90^o-\theta_r ##. I'll let you try to finish it up. Meanwhile, the file you uploaded is apparently the wrong one.
 
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Charles Link said:
Snell's law is written ## n_1 \sin(\theta_1)=n_2 \sin(\theta_2) ##. For this case ## n_1=\sqrt{\epsilon_{r1}} ##, and ## n_2 =1 ##. ## \\ ## ## \theta_1 ## is the angle of incidence inside the material, measured from the normal. There is a ## \theta_1 ## for which the left side of the equation is equal to 1. What happens if ## \theta_1 ## is such that the left side of the equation is greater than 1 ? Can you get a solution for the right side in that case, to determine the emerging angle of the refracted ray? ## \\ ## Editing: This problem is slightly tricky: If ## \theta_i=90^o ##,(the steepest angle of incidence at the entry point), ## \theta_r=\sin^{-1}(1/n_1) ##. The resulting ## \theta_1=90^o-\theta_r ##. I'll let you try to finish it up. Meanwhile, the file you uploaded is apparently the wrong one.
As far as I can make out, this matches what @Pushoam has done. Have you identified an error in the working?
 
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As far as I can make out, this matches what @Pushoam has done. Have you identified an error in the working?
The OP's statement after equation (6) was somewhat confusing. Meanwhile, I was expecting to see the statement ## n_1 \sin(\theta_1)>1 ## for total internal reflection. In addition, ## \sin(\theta_1)=\cos(\theta_r)=\frac{\sqrt{n_1^2-1}}{n_1} ##. Thereby ## \sqrt{n_1^2-1}>1 ##, so that ## n_1^2=\epsilon_{r1}>2 ##. ## \\ ## I didn't see these details in the OP's solution. ## \\ ## (It was difficult to answer the question by @haruspex without providing the solution.) ## \\ ## From what I can see, the OP gets the right answer, but the algebraic steps to the answer are not readily apparent. Perhaps the OP performed a similar algebra, but too many steps were omitted to readily tell how the OP arrived at the answer. :) ## \\ ## In any case, I think the OP @Pushoam might find these details useful.
 
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The OP's statement after equation (6) was somewhat confusing. Meanwhile, I was expecting to see the statement ## n_1 \sin(\theta_1)>1 ## for total internal reflection. In addition, ## \sin(\theta_1)=\cos(\theta_r)=\frac{\sqrt{n_1^2-1}}{n_1} ##. Thereby ## \sqrt{n_1^2-1}>1 ##, so that ## n_1^2=\epsilon_{r1}>2 ##. ## \\ ## I didn't see these details in the OP's solution. ## \\ ## (It was difficult to answer the question by @haruspex without providing the solution.) ## \\ ## From what I can see, the OP gets the right answer, but the algebraic steps to the answer are not readily apparent. Perhaps the OP performed a similar algebra, but too many steps were omitted to readily tell how the OP arrived at the answer. :) ## \\ ## In any case, I think the OP @Pushoam might find these details useful.
Ok, thanks for clarifying.
 
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