How is the Matrix in Momentum Representation Derived?

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the matrix element in momentum representation, specifically focusing on the expression for \(\langle p | W | p' \rangle\) and its relation to position representation. The subject area includes quantum mechanics and mathematical physics.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the integration of position states and the implications of the delta function in the context of the matrix element. There are attempts to clarify the role of the operator \(W\) and its dependence on position. Some participants question the validity of certain assumptions made during the derivation process.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and corrections to each other's reasoning. There is a mix of agreement on certain foundational aspects, such as the form of \(\langle x | p \rangle\), while others are encouraged to revisit their initial assumptions and calculations. Multiple interpretations of the derivation steps are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the properties of the operators involved and the implications of the Fourier transform in the context of the problem. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity regarding the dependence of the operator \(W\) on position.

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$$\langle p | W | p' \rangle = \int \langle p | x \rangle \langle x W | x' \rangle \langle x' p' \rangle dx dx'$$
$$\langle p | W | p' \rangle = \int \langle p | x \rangle \delta(x-x') W(x) \langle x' | p' \rangle dx dx'$$
$$\langle p | W | p' \rangle = \int \langle p | x' \rangle W(x') \langle x' | p' \rangle dx'$$
$$* \langle p | W | p' \rangle = W(x') \langle p |p' \rangle$$
$$\langle p | W | p' \rangle = \delta (p-p') W(x')$$

To get * from the previous equation, i assumed that ##\int x'\rangle \langle x' dx' = 1##. But i am not sure if i can just take it out, because i don't really know if the W(x') does affect something in this integral.

Or is this right?
 
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No, you can’t do that. You’re integrating over ##x’##, so it shouldn’t appear in the final result.
 
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Hint: Think about what is ##\langle x|p \rangle=\langle p|x \rangle^*##. Also it's clear that your result cannot depend on ##x##, because ##\hat{W}## doesn't depend on ##x##.
 
I could try to go on: ##\langle x | p \rangle = c e^{ikx}##, with this the integral reduce to
$$c c^{*} \int W(x') e^{(ik'-ik)x'} dx'$$

Now, i need to review Fourier transform, but maybe i could say that $$ \langle x | p \rangle = c c^{*} \hat W (p)$$ ?
 
No, you first formula is right:
$$\langle x|p \rangle=u_p(x)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2 \pi \hbar}} \exp(\mathrm{i} p x/\hbar).$$
Now start again with your initial formula in #1.
 
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No, you first formula is right:
$$\langle x|p \rangle=u_p(x)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2 \pi \hbar}} \exp(\mathrm{i} p x/\hbar).$$
Now start again with your initial formula in #1.
I will try to go step by step.

$$\int \int \frac{dxdx'}{2 \pi \hbar} exp(i(p'x'-px)/\hbar) \delta(x-x') W(x)$$
$$ \frac{1}{2 \pi \hbar} \int exp( \frac{-2 \pi i (p-p')x'}{2 \pi \hbar}) W(x') dx' $$
$$ \frac{1}{2 \pi \hbar} \int exp( -2 \pi i f x' ) W(x') dx' = \frac{\hat W (t)}{2 \pi \hbar}$$
$$ \langle p | W | p' \rangle = \frac{\hat W (t)}{2 \pi \hbar} = \frac{K (\frac{p-p'}{2 \pi \hbar})}{2 \pi \hbar}$$

Where K is the spectrum of W
At least it is beautiful now
 
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