How is this system in equilibrium?

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The discussion revolves around a system in equilibrium involving blocks and a weight, with considerations of friction and the geometry of the connecting string. Participants are exploring the balance of forces acting on the system.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the connector point, questioning how friction and weight can cancel out. There is exploration of the implications of the string's angle and its effect on tension and force components.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the nature of the connection between the blocks and the implications of the string's angle on the system's equilibrium. Some guidance has been offered regarding the tension in the string and its relationship to the forces involved.

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There is an assumption of friction between the blocks and the surface, and participants are considering the physical constraints of the system, such as the impossibility of the string being perfectly perpendicular.

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Assume some friction between M and the surface.

The forces acting on the connector point are the forces of friction of the M blocks and the weight of m, but they are in different directions; how do they manage to cancel out?
 

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By being in opposite directions.

Aside: If the string (?) joining the blocks really was horizontal the tension would be infinite so it must sag a bit. Assume it sags to an angle θ with the horizontal. Then look at the horizontal and vertical components. The vertical components adds to the normal force on the blocks. The horizontal force is opposed by friction etc.
 
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But the weight of m is perpendicular to the frictional forces
 
Peppino said:
But the weight of m is perpendicular to the frictional forces

There are other vertical forces.

See my earlier reply that I edited.
 
Can I check the line joining the blocks is indeed something like string and not a rigid rod?
 
Yes. Sorry I thought that was implied.

Ah, I see now. It is physically impossible for the strings to be 100% perpendicular, correct?
 
Yes because the Tension in the string is T = mg/sin(θ) and sin(θ) approaches zero. Perhaps draw it with the string forming a V and work out all the forces.
 

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