How is Wave Intensity Calculated?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of wave intensity, specifically exploring the relationship between intensity, amplitude, and power. Participants are examining the relevant equations and concepts related to wave mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equations for intensity and its relation to amplitude, questioning the definitions and substitutions made in the original poster's attempt. There is a focus on clarifying the correct use of variables and the implications of the equations presented.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the proper definitions and relationships between intensity and amplitude. There is an ongoing exploration of how these concepts interrelate, with multiple interpretations being discussed. The conversation is productive, with participants actively seeking clarification and understanding.

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There are mentions of potential confusion due to variable naming conventions in the problem statement, which may affect the clarity of the discussion. Participants are also navigating the definitions of energy and intensity as they relate to the problem.

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Homework Statement


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Is intensity related to this question? The answer is B.

Homework Equations


I^2 ∝ A^2
I=P/A,
where I is intensity, P is power, and A is area

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using I=P/A, and after substituting, I get, A^2=E/S, which gives E=A^2 S
And then, the new wave now is (2A)^2= x/(1/2S), where x is the energy per unit time after the changes, and this gives x=8 A^2 S, which..does not give an answer..:oldmad:
 
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Check your first relevant equation. (A is the amplitude, as in the exercise text). Is it right ? Later on you do something else (which seems better to me :smile: )

I = E/S where I is intensity, E is power and S is area (as in the exercise text -- see comment below )

You can't re-use the letter A for Area in the second equation.
Don't redefine given names with names that are in use already. It's confusing, makes your substitutions illegible, etc.
(I understand where this comes from, but doing an exercise you have to adapt a little... and in this case convert (substitute) to I = E/S even before writing down)


According to your equations, you have ## E \propto A^2 S## which is good and gives the proper answer.

Comment:
I must say that the exercise writer wrong-footed me too by using the letter E for energy per unit time. Very unusual, to say something decent...
 
BvU said:
Check your first relevant equation. (A is the amplitude, as in the exercise text). Is it right ? Later on you do something else (which seems better to me :smile: )

I = E/S where I is intensity, E is power and S is area (as in the exercise text -- see comment below )

You can't re-use the letter A for Area in the second equation.
Don't redefine given names with names that are in use already. It's confusing, makes your substitutions illegible, etc.
(I understand where this comes from, but doing an exercise you have to adapt a little... and in this case convert (substitute) to I = E/S even before writing down)According to your equations, you have ## E \propto A^2 S## which is good and gives the proper answer.

Comment:
I must say that the exercise writer wrong-footed me too by using the letter E for energy per unit time. Very unusual, to say something decent...

Oh oh, sorry, yeah.. Was unconscious about it the A.
Ok thanks.. Umm, may I know how is intensity related to amplitude? And why is intensity equals to power per unit area? How does it come about?
 
That's the definition...

You wrote ##I^2 \propto A^2## as relevant equation, but substituted ##I\propto A^2## in the attempt at solution...

The simplistic way I memorize it is to think of a weight hanging from a spring. The energy is ½ k ^x2 so proportional to amplitude2.
 
BvU said:
That's the definition...

You wrote ##I^2 \propto A^2## as relevant equation, but substituted ##I\propto A^2## in the attempt at solution...

The simplistic way I memorize it is to think of a weight hanging from a spring. The energy is ½ k ^x2 so proportional to amplitude2.
Oh woops. Sorry again..
Oh I see, so intensity is sort of like the energy and amplitude is the extension??
 
The intensity of a wave is defined as the amount of energy that passes through unit area perpendicular to the wave direction in unit time.
So it's energy per unit time per unit area.

Amplitude is amount of extension with respect to equilibrium (deviation from equilibrium). Can be length, but can also be angle, or pressure, or perhaps a few more things
 
BvU said:
So it's energy per unit time per unit area.

Amplitude is amount of extension with respect to equilibrium (deviation from equilibrium). Can be length, but can also be angle, or pressure, or perhaps a few more things
I see, thanks a lot!
 

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