How Long Does It Take for a Released Mailbag to Hit the Ground?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a helicopter releasing a mailbag at a height defined by the equation h=3.00t^3. Participants are tasked with determining the time it takes for the mailbag to reach the ground after its release.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss calculating the height of the helicopter at the time of release and question the assumptions made regarding initial velocity and the motion of the helicopter.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested taking the derivative to find the initial velocity of the helicopter. Others are exploring how to correctly set up the equations for height and motion after the mailbag is released, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the use of the height equation after the mailbag is released, as well as the assumptions about initial conditions and the motion of the helicopter.

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Homework Statement



The height of a helicopter above the ground is given by [tex]h=3.00t^3[/tex], where h is in meters and t is in seconds. After 2.00s, the helicopter releases a small mailbag. How long after its release does the mailbag reach the ground?

Homework Equations



[tex]d=v_1t + \frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



First, I figured out what the height would be at 2.00s by substituting t with 2.00s.

[tex]h=3.00(2.00)^3[/tex]
[tex]h=24m[/tex]

Then I took [tex]d=v_1t + \frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex] and plugged in 24m at d and assumed [tex]v_1[/tex] as 0.

[tex]24=0t + \frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]
[tex]24=\frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]

And plugged in 9.8m/s^2 into a.

[tex]24=\frac{1}{2}9.8t^2[/tex]

Which gave me t=2.21s

The answer is wrong and I cannot figure out how to do this problem.

I think my assumption of [tex]v_1=0[/tex] is wrong. Furthermore, I think my assumption that the helicopter stops ascending at the time the package is dropped is also wrong. I've racked my brain on this question for a good 2 days now and I still can't figure out how to arrive at the answer.
 
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Get the velocity of the helicopter by taking the derivative dh/dt... then plug in the time... and you get v1.
 
Oooh, now why didn't I think of that before? Thank you!

But I've arrived at another problem: how to you tackle the height? Do you just use [tex]3.00t^3[/tex] to replace d, rearrange and get solve the quadratic equation?

i.e.

[tex]3.00t^3=v_1t+\frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]
 
Vii said:
Oooh, now why didn't I think of that before? Thank you!

But I've arrived at another problem: how to you tackle the height? Do you just use [tex]3.00t^3[/tex] to replace d, rearrange and get solve the quadratic equation?

i.e.

[tex]3.00t^3=v_1t+\frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]

No that's not right.

The 3.00t^3 only works for the moment the object is released... after that it just falls downwards (it is no longer attached to the helicopter)...

Use the 3.00t^3 to get the initial conditions... ie the objects initial height and velocity... but after that you don't need it.
 
Sorry. I'm afraid I still don't get it. I'm really horrible at Physics...

So, I get the initial conditions (the height and velocity) and substitute it into the equation and solve for t?
 
Vii said:
Sorry. I'm afraid I still don't get it. I'm really horrible at Physics...

So, I get the initial conditions (the height and velocity) and substitute it into the equation and solve for t?

Yes, just like in your initial post... everything is right except you assumed v1 was 0... find v1... then do the problem just like in your first post.
 
Oh! Thank you so much!
 

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