How Long Does It Take for the Block to Reach the Other Side?

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The discussion centers on calculating the time it takes for a 1.74 kg block to reach the right edge of a 3.05 m long, frictionless 7.95 kg block when a horizontal force of 11.4 N is applied. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the two blocks is 0.279. Initially, the user calculated the time as 1.264 seconds, but this was incorrect due to not accounting for the movement of the lower block. After correcting the approach, the user determined the correct time to be 1.3766 seconds.

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Homework Statement


A small block of mass 1.74 kg rests on the left edge of a block of length 3.05 m and mass 7.95 kg. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the two blocks is 0.279, and the surface on which the 7.95 kg block rests is frictionless. A constant horizontal force of magnitude 11.4 N is applied to the 1.74 kg block, setting it in motion.

How long will it take before this block reaches the right side of the 7.95 kg block? The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s2 . (Note that both blocks are set in motion when ~ F is applied. Answer in units of s.

Homework Equations


Ffk=Uk(FN)
X=(1/2)at^2
F=ma[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


so to find the normal force (FN) that mass 1.74 exerts on the block below it I did 1.74kg*9.8m/s^2 to get a normal force of 17.052N. I then found the kinetic friction by multiplying the normal force by the coefficient of kinetic friction: 17.052N*.279=4.757N. I then found the net force exerted on the top block to be 11.4N-4.757N= 6.64N. so using F=ma I used the numbers: 6.64N=1.74kg*(a) and solved for a to be a=3.8175m/s^2. Then I used X=(1/2)a(t^2): 3.05m=(1/2)(3.8175)(t^2) and got t=1.264s. However, this time is apparently not correct and I am confused as to what I am doing wrong. Do I need to take into account that the bottom block is moving aswell?
 
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rmb16 said:
Do I need to take into account that the bottom block is moving aswell?
That would be a good idea. You have found the time it would take for the top block to reach the end of where the lower block was initially, but it has moved on.
 
haruspex said:
That would be a good idea. You have found the time it would take for the top block to reach the end of where the lower block was initially, but it has moved on.

Thankyou! So I fixed my mistake by doing 3.05+X= (1/2)(3.817)(t^2) where x is the distance that the bottom block traveled and its equation is: x=(1/2)(.598427)(t^2) ( I got .598427 by doing 4.7575= 7.95a where 4.7575 is the friction force acting on the bottom block by the top block) and so I combined the two equations together and got T=1.3766seconds which turns out to be correct. Thank you for your tip!
 
rmb16 said:
Thankyou! So I fixed my mistake by doing 3.05+X= (1/2)(3.817)(t^2) where x is the distance that the bottom block traveled and its equation is: x=(1/2)(.598427)(t^2) ( I got .598427 by doing 4.7575= 7.95a where 4.7575 is the friction force acting on the bottom block by the top block) and so I combined the two equations together and got T=1.3766seconds which turns out to be correct. Thank you for your tip!
Good.
 

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