How Many Bounces Until the Ball Reaches 2.44m?

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The problem involves a ball dropped from a height of 6.10m that bounces inelastically, losing 10% of its kinetic energy with each bounce. The objective is to determine how many bounces are required for the ball to reach a height of 2.44m after being dropped.

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  • The original poster discusses using gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy equations, along with geometric series to model the energy loss. They express a desire for a more systematic method rather than trial and error.

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Participants are exploring different mathematical approaches to the problem, including the use of geometric series and logarithmic relationships. Some suggest that calculating the height after each bounce might be more straightforward, while others provide equations related to the series.

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There is an emphasis on the energy loss per bounce and the specific height that must be reached. The discussion hints at the complexity of the problem due to the iterative nature of calculating bounces.

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Homework Statement



A ball is dropped from rest from the top of a 6.10m building, falls straight down, collides inelastically with the ground and bounces back. The ball loses 10% of it's K.E every time it hits the ground. How many bounces can happen and the ball still reach a height of 2.44m above the ground.

Homework Equations



mgh = 1/2 mv2

xn = arn-1 (finding a term in a geometric series)

The Attempt at a Solution



I can come to an answer easily enough using the two equations stated above and the ideas of gravitational P.E being converted to K.E (so mass cancels out) and constructing a geometric series that uses r = 0.9 to accommodate the energy loss.

I have to essentially just guess terms until I'm in the right region and then increase or decrease my term until I reach the right answer. This seems somewhat messy to me, using trial and error.

Is there a cleaner method, that will use the information of the final height I need it to reach?

I'm just curious,

thanks!
 
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##x_n=ar^{n-1}##
##r^{n-1}=x_n/a##
##(n-1)logr=log x_n-loga##
 
Enigman said:
##x_n=ar^{n-1}##
##r^{n-1}=x_n/a##
##(n-1)logr=log x_n-loga##

Ahh, thank you!
 
[tex]x_n=x_0r^n[/tex] But, it's much easier just to do 1 bounce at a time. It couldn't take more than about 10 bounces with r = .9. Or, do it using: every two bounces is 0.81, every 3 bounces is 0.729.
 

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