How many integration techniques are worth knowing?

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The discussion centers on the necessity of mastering integration techniques for students in classical mechanics. Participants emphasize that while computer algebra systems like Mathematica can solve complex integrals, understanding these techniques is crucial for verifying results and enhancing problem-solving skills. The consensus is that students should learn a wide range of integration methods, as this foundational knowledge aids in both academic and research settings. Ultimately, knowing between 150 and 200 integration techniques is recommended for effective problem-solving in advanced physics and engineering.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic calculus concepts, including integrals and derivatives.
  • Familiarity with computer algebra systems such as Mathematica or Wolfram Alpha.
  • Knowledge of differential equations and their applications in physics.
  • Experience with substitution methods in integration.
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  • Study advanced integration techniques, including trigonometric and hypergeometric functions.
  • Learn how to effectively use Mathematica for solving complex integrals.
  • Explore differential equations and their solutions to enhance mathematical proficiency.
  • Research numerical methods for integration and their applications in engineering problems.
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Students in physics and engineering, educators teaching calculus and mechanics, and researchers needing to validate computational results through manual integration techniques.

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I would say you need to know all the integration techniques to some degree, basic ones you encounter in calculus 1-3 definitely. This however depends entirely on what your major is, and what you intend to do.
 
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Best Pokemon said:
Some guys in this forums found integrals that Mathematica couldn't compute: http://www.wilmott.com/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=85389
That's not hard to come up with. Just write down a horrible contrived expression, take its derivative, and--tada--you got an integral you know the answer to but no one else (human or machine) has any chance of ever calculating.

The question is not whether there are expressions for which a--possibly simple--closed-form analytical expression of its integral exists. Of course there are. The question is: If you do not happen to be able to already know or be able to guess the answer, do you, as a human, have any chance of coming up with an algorithm to get the answer which Mathematica cannot? And this can usually happen only if you have some additional information about the problem (e.g., symmetries, magic coordinate transformation, etc) which Mathematica does not have. Because it sure *DOES* know how to apply all the basic integration techniques, and it does know them much better than you as a human do.

Although I have do admit, I was quite surprised by the BesselJ example. I'll try this some time (maybe some assumptions were missing, and the posted identity doesn't always hold).

btw: I'd bet several of the examples on that page would just work in Mathematica if you turned on the cubic and quartic radicals (which are disabled by default because calculating with them might stress your patience). And the fact that you can just do something like this: Ask the program to solve with techniques you could never hope to apply by hand, is already quite awesome. (actually, most of the symbolic integration techniques one could never apply by hand. Some of them are really cool.)
 
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