How much does where you go for your undergrad matter?

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The discussion centers around the impact of undergraduate institution choice on future opportunities in aerospace engineering, particularly in relation to graduate school admissions. Participants explore the importance of academic performance, personal development, and the overall application profile for graduate programs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about attending a community college and its potential impact on graduate school applications, emphasizing a desire to improve academically.
  • Another participant suggests that admissions committees value a clear sense of purpose and evidence of improvement over time, indicating that academic performance is important but not the sole factor.
  • It is noted that graduate program evaluations consider multiple factors, including grades, GRE scores, research experience, and letters of recommendation, suggesting a holistic approach to applications.
  • A strong upward trend in grades is highlighted as beneficial, with the idea that early lower grades can be mitigated by later high performance.
  • Engagement in research and building relationships with professors are recommended as strategies to enhance graduate school applications.
  • One participant questions the original poster's commitment to aerospace engineering, suggesting that high school students may not fully understand the demands of the field and should focus on excelling in current studies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of undergraduate institution prestige versus academic performance and personal development. There is no consensus on the best approach or the weight of various factors in graduate admissions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of defining what constitutes "good" and "bad" schools, which may vary based on individual perspectives. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the long-term implications of current academic choices and the evolving nature of personal interests in the field.

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I want to go into aerospace engineering and I have really messed up in high school (not going into details) long story short I am definitely not getting into some big name school I am trying to improve but I am beginning to realize how little of an impact I am having. I am not going to stop trying but I was wondering how much it matters if I go to some metropolitan community college for my undergrad as far as going to a better school for my graduate program.
 
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As a general statement, admissions committees like to see applicants with a clear sense of purpose who can provide evidence that they are focused on achieving their goal. In terms of academics, improvement over time is an example. In terms of scholarship, it's a record of 'products'. In terms of leadership, it's typically service to an organization.
 
When you apply to a graduate program, you are evaluated on a number of different factors by the committee. Grades, and home institution are part of that. But they are just pieces of the "you" that you are to present as a whole.

You will also be evaluated by your pGRE scores, research, SOP, letters of recommendation.

Since you're from a no-name school (assuming), and you didn't do as well in HS, what you can really focus on is gaining a strong upward trend in your grades. A B or C your freshman year begins to hurt a bit less when you continued the sequence with A's.

Develop a good working relationship with a few of your professors.

Get involved in research. If there is no research opportunities at your university, there are excellent opportunities via REU programs.

Really, the worst case is that you take the Masters somewhere, and then do the PhD. But I'm sure you if you work at it, you'll be capable of presenting a product that graduate schools want to buy. They want to know you'll be able to keep up with the pace of the work and produce papers.

Cheers
 
HayleySarg said:
When you apply to a graduate program, you are evaluated on a number of different factors by the committee. Grades, and home institution are part of that. But they are just pieces of the "you" that you are to present as a whole.

You will also be evaluated by your pGRE scores, research, SOP, letters of recommendation.

Since you're from a no-name school (assuming), and you didn't do as well in HS, what you can really focus on is gaining a strong upward trend in your grades. A B or C your freshman year begins to hurt a bit less when you continued the sequence with A's.

Develop a good working relationship with a few of your professors.

Get involved in research. If there is no research opportunities at your university, there are excellent opportunities via REU programs.

Really, the worst case is that you take the Masters somewhere, and then do the PhD. But I'm sure you if you work at it, you'll be capable of presenting a product that graduate schools want to buy. They want to know you'll be able to keep up with the pace of the work and produce papers.

Cheers

THanks for the help I'm still in high school and that's what I was worried about.
 
it is difficult to assess your position without knowing what you consider "good schools" and "bad schools". this being said, getting A's in a CC will get you into a good undergrad program, where A's there will qualify you into a good grad program, should you decide.

honestly, judging by your initial post, you really have no clue if you'll even like aerospace, since in high school most people don't have a working knowledge of calculus, diff eq, linear algebra, foundational physics, fluid dynamics, PDEs, etc. there is literally SO much ahead i would only focus on getting A's in what's in front of you and let the future worry about itself
 

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