How much electrical energy can be extracted from Iron in a cell?

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The discussion centers on calculating the energy output of an electrochemical cell using iron and iron chloride solutions. The setup includes three moles of iron at the negative electrode and three moles of FeCl3 at the positive electrode, with reactions leading to the oxidation of iron and reduction of iron chloride. The overall cell reaction produces a voltage of 1.21V, and the Nernst equation is suggested as a method to determine the cell's potential based on ion concentration changes. It is noted that energy can also be calculated using thermodynamic principles, specifically Gibbs energy. Understanding these concepts is crucial for determining the energy produced before the cell reaches equilibrium.
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How much electrical energy can be extracted from Iron in a cell?
Hi,
I am trying to get to an answer for the following scenario.

Imagine you have an electrochemical cell in its most basic terms.
On the negative electrode you have 3 moles of iron metal in a chloride solution. On the positive side you have 3 moles FeCl3 solution. These are separated by a membrane. A pretty standard setup.

When you connect a load between the positive and negative electrodes, electrons flow as iron metal oxidises to Fe2 and Fe3 reduces to Fe2.

What i am trying to calculate is how much energy does the above setup produce before the cell becomes balanced?
If not balanced, then what's left over after one of the electrodes reaches a state of all Fe2?

Can anyone help me answer these 2 questions, please.
 
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Borek said:
Can you write reactions for both cells? Can you write Nernst equation for both cells? Battery will stop working when these potentials are identical.
Hi,
Here are the reactions during discharge for both side of the cell. I don't know what a Nernst equation is. Will a Nernst equation help me to calculate how much overall energy is in a cell of a given size?

Reactions:

Positive electrode: 2FeCl3 + 2e- -> 2FeCl2 + 2Cl- Eo = 0.77V

Negative electrode: Fe + 2Cl- -> FeCl2 + 2e- Eo = -0.44V

Overall cell reaction: Fe + 2 FeCl3 -> 3FeCl2 Eocell = 1.21V
 
Nernst equation let's you calculate the potential as a function of concentration of ions involved, so it will let you calculate the final potential. It will also let you calculate all intermediate potentials as a function of the reaction progress towards the equilibrium, as concentrations are rather simple function of the reaction stoichiometry - which is in turn easy to combine with the flowing current or charge transfer (through the Faraday's law of electrolysis). VI is power, integrate it from the initial concentration to the equilibrium and you have energy of the system.

It is also definitely possible to calculate the amount of energy from thermodynamics, using Gibbs energy of the system. In theory I should be able to do that, in practice I forgot too much and I prefer to not risk making an idiot out of myself :wink:
 
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