How much force do I exert on the Earth?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force exerted by a person on the Earth during a jump, involving concepts of weight, acceleration, and the physics of jumping. The original poster provides measurements and calculations related to their weight, crouching distance, and jump height.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations involving weight and acceleration, questioning the validity of the original poster's results. There is exploration of the relationship between the calculated acceleration and gravitational acceleration, as well as the implications of vector signs in acceleration.

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Participants are engaged in exploring the problem, with some expressing confusion and uncertainty about the correctness of the calculations. There are multiple interpretations of the problem and its requirements, with suggestions for further attempts and considerations of the context in which the problem is presented.

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There is mention of a website that provides feedback on answers, indicating that the original poster's submissions were marked incorrect. Some participants speculate about the expectations for the answer format and the implications of the problem's phrasing.

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Homework Statement
Calculate your acceleration while jumping, the net force that acts on you while jumping, and the force you exert on Earth when you jump.
Relevant Equations
w = mg

acceleration = Net force / mass

2.2 lb = 1 kg
This question required measurements which are the following:

my weight = 108 lbs
crouching distance (the distance from my regular height to where I crouch) = 90.6 cm
jump height = 60.4 cm

I first converted lb to kg, and I got 49.09 kg. I then used this value for w = mg and inputted 9.80 for g and got w = 481.09 N. I then used this force for a = net force / mass and found the acceleration to be 9.7999 m/s/s.

This answer was wrong, and I was wondering why I went wrong in my work. The answer made sense to me — the only force, neglecting air resistance, acting on someone in the middle of their jump is acceleration due to gravity.
 
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Hello Cesium, :welcome: !

Doesn't your result (9.7999 m/s) look a lot like ##g## ?

(Small wonder if you first do ##W = mg## and then ##a = W/m## :smile: )​

I envy your 60 cm !

Jumping has three phases: you go from crouching to right up (accelerating), then you fly (basically free fall) and when you land you crouch again to soften the landing (decelerating).

cs44167 said:
This answer was wrong,
That surprises me: I agree with your reasoning and with your result. How do you know it's wrong (do you have the right answer, or just a red cross or something ?)

Perhaps - if your teacher is a computer in a strange backward country, the answer is expected to be expressed in antique units ? (Such as lbf, feet/forthnight2 or other :wink:)
 
BvU said:
Hello Cesium, :welcome: !

Doesn't your result (9.7999 m/s) look a lot like ##g## ?

(Small wonder if you first do ##W = mg## and then ##a = W/m## :smile: )​

I envy your 60 cm !

Jumping has three phases: you go from crouching to right up (accelerating), then you fly (basically free fall) and when you land you crouch again to soften the landing (decelerating).

That surprises me: I agree with your reasoning and with your result. How do you know it's wrong (do you have the right answer, or just a red cross or something ?)

Perhaps - if your teacher is a computer in a strange backward country, the answer is expected to be expressed in antique units ? (Such as lbf, feet/forthnight2 or other :wink:)
It’s on a website and gives a red x when the answer is incorrect. There’s never been an issue and the answer for acceleration is to be expressed in m/s/s. The only thing I was thinking was since acceleration is a vector if not having a negative sign was the issue.

We have three submissions, the first I put 9.80 m/s/s, then -9.80 m/s/s, and now I’m stuck.
 
I'm afraid I am stuck as well. Doesn't help but perhaps feels a little better.

I don't suppose the website is accessible for pagans from outside ?
 
BvU said:
I'm afraid I am stuck as well. Doesn't help but perhaps feels a little better.

I don't suppose the website is accessible for pagans from outside ?
The correct answer is a maximum upward acceleration a=.67g. This is what is required to produce a jump height of 60.4cm with an acceleration stretch over a distance of 90.6cm. Then add in the weight.
 
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I didn't read that in the problem statement, but I can understand that it's somewhat implicitly intended (semantics?). So a jump ends in that interpretation once the object leaves the ground.

@cs44167: If your career doesn't depend on it or you have more tries left, give it a try !

@hutchphd : you seem to know the website ?
 
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Perhaps I overstated...I think the correct answer is 1.67W... I don't know the website. Be glad to help more tomorrow.
 

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