How Much Fuel Must a Rocket Burn to Double Its Exhaust Speed?

  • Thread starter Thread starter themadhatter1
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Application Vector
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a rocket's fuel consumption and its effect on velocity, specifically focusing on how much fuel must be burned to double the exhaust speed. The context is rooted in Newton's Second Law of Motion and the dynamics of rocket propulsion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the rocket's initial mass and the mass after burning fuel, questioning how to express the fraction of mass burned. There is an exploration of the equation derived from the rocket's motion and its implications for mass and velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into rearranging the equation to isolate the unknown mass, while others are clarifying the distinction between finding the initial mass and the fraction of mass burned. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, with guidance offered on how to express the solution in terms of the fraction of mass burned.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the initial velocity is zero and that certain variables can be treated as known quantities. There is an emphasis on the need to express the answer in terms of the fraction of initial mass burned, rather than calculating the initial mass itself.

themadhatter1
Messages
139
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


A rocket burning it's onboard fuel while moving through space has a velocity v(t) and mass m(t) at time t. If the exhaust gasses escape with velocity ve relative to the rocket , it can be deduced from Newton's Second Law of Motion that

m\frac{dv}{dt}=\frac{dm}{dt}\vec{v_{e}}<br />
a. show that \vec{v}(t)=\vec{v}(0) - ln\frac{m(0)}{m(t)}\vec{v_{e}}

b. For the rocket to accelerate in a straight line from rest to twice the speed of it's own exhaust gasses, what fraction of initial mass would the rocket have to burn as fuel?

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I already solved part a, I just can't get part b.

I know that:
2\vec{v_{e}}=\vec{v}(0) - ln\frac{m(0)}{m(t)}\vec{v_{e}}

However, I don't know where to go from here to find the initial mass the rocket would have to burn to achieve this velocity. Any ideas?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
It seems to be staring you in the face. You have an equation with essentially one unknown. Where in your equation is your initial mass, and what indicates the fraction of it expended at time t?
 
Oh wait.

you know v(0)=0.

So this could be arranged to be

m(t)\frac{1}{e^2}=m(0)

so it uses 1/e2 of it's fuel. Is this what you were thinking?
 
The problem is not asking you to find m(0), the initial mass, but rather the fraction of the initial mass which the rocket would have to burn in order to reach the velocity specified. In your equation, you can treat v_e, m(0), and v(0) as known quantities (you are correct that v(0)=0). You should be solving in terms of the only unknown quantity, m(t). Then, the fraction of the initial mass which the rocket has burned at time t is 1-\frac{m(t)}{m(0)}, so put your answer in that form, ie. 1-\frac{m(t)}{m(0)}=... and that should be it.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 42 ·
2
Replies
42
Views
6K