How Much Light Can Fiber Optic Cables Carry?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the capacity of fiber optic cables to carry light for illumination purposes, particularly focusing on the implications of different thicknesses of fiber, the concept of light density or intensity, and the limits of irradiance that can be handled by these cables. Participants explore theoretical and practical aspects of fiber optics in this context.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether there is a maximum amount of light that can be transmitted through a fiber optic cable based on its diameter, drawing a parallel to electrical wires and their maximum amperage.
  • Another participant clarifies that light density can be equated to light intensity or irradiance, noting that there are upper limits on intensity due to potential material damage and effects like Stimulated Brillouin Scattering.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the thickness of fiber optics may relate to the minimum bend radius, while also indicating that pulse spreading is not a concern for lighting applications.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding data on the irradiance limits of fiber optic cables, specifically questioning whether typical fibers can handle 1-2kW of sunlight.
  • Another participant presents calculations regarding the attenuation of a specific type of fiber optic cable and questions whether the power dissipation from their calculations is manageable for a thick fiber optic cable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the limits of light transmission through fiber optic cables, with no consensus reached on the specific irradiance limits or the implications of fiber thickness. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the practical capabilities of fiber optics for high-intensity applications.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific data on irradiance limits for different types of fiber optic cables and the dependence on application context, such as whether the fiber is used for illumination or digital signaling.

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I am trying to design a system that will carry light for illumination along a fiber optic cable. I see that there are many thicknesses of fiber optic cable - however I am unsure of the purpose of this. I've never heard of a 'density' of light that you can put into a cable - is there such a thing? Ie. is there a certain 'amount' of light that you can put through a certain diameter of fiber optic cabling, kind of like there is a maximum amperage you can put through a certain diameter wire? (I know it's due to resistance in electrical wire, which is very minimal in fiber.. which would lead to a negatory answer)

If not, then why the different thicknesses of fiber? (I'm talking about single strands for simplicity)

Thanks!
 
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Light density = Light Intensity (or, more correctly, irradiance).

There are upper limits on the intensity that can be put through an optical fibre, which limits are relevant depend on the application. The "hard" limit is material damage that arises due to high intensity light, though other "softer" limits such as Stimulated Brillouin Scattering can also arise, which can affect applications that use coherent light.

Claude.
 
Could the different thicknesses available relate to the minimum radius of bend that you can get? (As with copper cables)
Fibre width is very relevant for digital signalling, of course, but pulse spreading is not a problem in lighting applications.
 
Hmm.. I'm having trouble finding data on what kinds of irradiance fiber optics cables can handle.

My application will require something like 1-2kW of sunlight to be focused into the fiber.. I'm not sure if this is easily handled by most fiber cables or not.

I can see where bend radius might affect it - luckily my application won't need any tight bends so that isn't a major issue.
 
Ok, I've done some more thinking; here's what I've come up with.

A high quality APF (All Plastic Fiber) cable of some radius has an attenuation of about .15 db/m

Since attenuation is defined as ## att = 10*log(power_f/power_i),## my power transmission would be about 97% per meter.

For 1kw of power transmitted over 1m of cable, this equates to about 30W of power dissipated.. is this something a decently thick fiber optic cable can handle continuously?

Or am I on the completely wrong track?
 

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