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SergejVictorov, Switzerland is, like, my dream country. How's life over there?
franznietzsche said:Thats $120,000 a year. If that barely cuts it in the midwest, you have some spending priority issues, or a massive amount of personal debt to pay off. Sending your kid to switzerland? That is not barely cutting it.
But you're half my age.Kerrie said:i have to agree that $120K is a nice salary. my husband and i live on half that.
Kerrie said:i think her daughter is under age 18 which in America is still considered a child, which by law Evo is required to support her as she sees fit . if she was say 21 and not going to school, then it might be more usual for her daughter to compensate her for food and utilities. i do admire Evo's devotion to supporting her daughter and ensuring she has it good. i think as long as her daughter understands and appreciates what she has (because i do believe many youths her age do not have it this well) she won't take it for granted and expect this lifestyle to be a standard.
i was raised to eat at home as much as possible too. for example, last night i spent $18.00 on food for this weekend on my husband and i (kids are with their dad this weekend) at Trader Joe's (you got to check them out!). the meals i bought included Ahi Tuna steak, cous cous, salad, new potatoes, chicken tenders, eggs (breakfast), orange juice and veggie chips. we eat very healthy with lots of proteins, veggies and "good" carbs. the time it takes to make this stuff is minimal considering how much money we are saving.
Evo said:But you're half my age.
You look 18!Kerrie said:evo, i will be 32 next month, are you actually 64??
Kerrie said:i have to agree that $120K is a nice salary. my husband and i live on half that.
franznietzsche said:I had better be able to live on just $60k, because i doubt i will be making more than that, being a physics major who plans on doing doctoral work in theoretical astrophysics, so if I'm making more then $60k, then the government decided they really wanted some astrophysicists to build their next big bomb. Although T division at Los Alamos would be really frickin cool.
You look 18!
Kerrie said:um, my husband and i earn that jointly, not each.
franznietzsche said:Well i figure post doc position from what i have heard are usually $20k per year, more in high cost of living areas though I'm sure. I imagine for a proffesorship without tenure/ research post $35k-$45k depending on the institution, with tenure 45k-60k depending on the institution. ANd actually could anyone here give more accurate figures? I would actually be interested in knowing.
My comment about having to live on that much was partly sardonic, because i know full well that i don't need that much to live just me. With a family though, then i obviously have to question the viability of a post doc salary. I want enough for my wife to not have to work unless she wants to, not for money, but because its what she wants to do.
Kerrie said:it all depends on the area you live in too...where i live, the cost of living is a little high. 60K affords us a decent frugal life plus i help support my two kids. i don't own a home (yet), but certainly don't have to live in the hood either. gas here is extremely high compared to the rest of the country also. considering $10/hr = $21K a year, you may realize that 60K isn't that much for two people to live on and helping support two young kids.
devious_ said:SergejVictorov, Switzerland is, like, my dream country. How's life over there?
franznietzsche said:Well i figure post doc position from what i have heard are usually $20k per year, more in high cost of living areas though I'm sure. I imagine for a proffesorship without tenure/ research post $35k-$45k depending on the institution, with tenure 45k-60k depending on the institution. ANd actually could anyone here give more accurate figures? I would actually be interested in knowing.
Zantra said:Where I live the average household income is $80K.. I am not rich- trust me
My little sister's ex boyfriend is an unemployed astrophysicist. He delivers pizza for a living. Both of his parents are professors at a large University. So their combined incomes make them very comfortable. It's really a shame though that there is not more money in the sciences.franznietzsche said:I had better be able to live on just $60k, because i doubt i will be making more than that, being a physics major who plans on doing doctoral work in theoretical astrophysics, so if I'm making more then $60k, then the government decided they really wanted some astrophysicists to build their next big bomb. Although T division at Los Alamos would be really frickin cool.
Evo said:My little sister's ex boyfriend is an unemployed astrophysicist. He delivers pizza for a living. Both of his parents are professors at a large University. So their combined incomes make them very comfortable. It's really a shame though that there is not more money in the sciences.
One of my ex-boyfriends had a Ph.D in Biochemistry and only made $45,000/year. He'll probably never make more than $60,000. This just isn't right.
SergejVictorov said:Well, I must say I can't complain about life over here.
Evo said:One of my ex-boyfriends had a Ph.D in Biochemistry and only made $45,000/year. He'll probably never make more than $60,000.
He prefers to remain in research. He was in AIDS research when we dated.Gokul43201 said:On what basis do you make this guess ?
The median salary for a tenured Biochemistry Prof is nearly 100K.
Evo said:My little sister's ex boyfriend is an unemployed astrophysicist. He delivers pizza for a living. Both of his parents are professors at a large University. So their combined incomes make them very comfortable. It's really a shame though that there is not more money in the sciences.
One of my ex-boyfriends had a Ph.D in Biochemistry and only made $45,000/year. He'll probably never make more than $60,000. This just isn't right.
Yeah, tell me about it. The clothes my parents paid for, they got to pick out. The clothes I paid for, I got to pick out. A $1.25 allowance a week so we could have a drink with the lunches we packed at home? Get real, my mom only bought braunshweigger (or however it's spelled - I try to block it from my memory). Geez, where'd these people come from? You'd think my parents grew up in the depression or during World War II or ... oh, yeah, I guess that explains it.
Anyway, suffice it to say, the kids in my family got part time jobs pretty early.
Where the heck do you people eat??
Aren't you worried that letting your daughter consume so much will make her prone to putting herself in debt when living on her own?
The more you do something, the more prone you become to HAVE to do it.
My little sister's ex boyfriend is an unemployed astrophysicist. He delivers pizza for a living. Both of his parents are professors at a large University. So their combined incomes make them very comfortable. It's really a shame though that there is not more money in the sciences.
One of my ex-boyfriends had a Ph.D in Biochemistry and only made $45,000/year. He'll probably never make more than $60,000. This just isn't right.
Yep, one of my daughter's friends got a new Lexus for his 16th birthday. Another kid got a new BMW. She'll have to make do with her Toyota.Dagenais said:There parents will just buy them a new Porsche Boxster or BMW just like that. If you think that's not possible, head to Richmond, British Columbia. It's a city full of people from Hong Kong, and you'll definitely spot a 16-20 year old driving in a Lexus, BMW, Benz etc.
I know, it burns me up.$45,000 for researching against AIDs.
While, over in the NHL, guys get millions for playing a game..
The NHL guys bring joy to hundreds of thousands of people week after week...but the AIDS researcher may never end up with anything usefulDagenais said:$45,000 for researching against AIDs.
While, over in the NHL, guys get millions for playing a game. Yet, they still complain, demand more money, and strike.
That just isn't right.
To be able to do something you want do do, are passionate about, enjoy, what greater reward is there than that?franznietzsche said:Yeah, those of us who go seeking PhDs rarely do it for the money. We do it because we like the field.
Evo said:To be able to do something you want do do, are passionate about, enjoy, what greater reward is there than that?
I would rather have that than tons of money.
cragwolf said:Sergej, how are foreigners treated in Switzerland? Especially hairy, Mediterranean ones like me.
Evo said:To be able to do something you want do do, are passionate about, enjoy, what greater reward is there than that?
I would rather have that than tons of money.
franznietzsche said:That's why I'm a physics major, not an engineering or computer science major.
Why do you keep asking these kinds of questions? They don't have any answers. Houses vary enormously by location and by quality.Saint said:how about houses in Florida, are they expensive?
The NHL guys bring joy to hundreds of thousands of people week after week...but the AIDS researcher may never end up with anything useful