How Much of the Initial Kinetic Energy of a Hollow Sphere is Rotational?

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The discussion revolves around the kinetic energy of a hollow sphere rolling up an inclined surface. The sphere has a specified radius and rotational inertia, and the total kinetic energy is given. Participants are exploring how to determine the portion of this energy that is rotational.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between translational and rotational kinetic energy, questioning how to isolate the rotational component. Some suggest using equations involving angular velocity and moment of inertia, while others express confusion about the necessary parameters.

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There are multiple approaches being explored, with some participants attempting to derive equations for rotational kinetic energy. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between linear and angular quantities, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or values.

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Participants note the challenge of missing information, such as mass and angular velocity, which complicates their calculations. There is also a discussion about the moment of inertia and its application in different contexts.

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a hollow sphere or radius 0.15m with rotational inertia=0.04 about a line throughits centre of mass,rolls withoutslipping up a surface inclined 30 degree to the horizontal.at a cwrtain initial position,the sphere's total kinetic energy is 20J.
how much of this initial kinetic energy is rotational.
pls help.i can't do it
 
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A hollow sphere or radius 0.15m with rotational inertia=0.04 about a line through its centre of mass,rolls without slipping up a surface inclined
30 degree to the horizontal. At a certain initial position, the sphere's total kinetic energy is 20J.

how much of this initial kinetic energy is rotational??

pls help.i can't do it
 
teng125 said:
A hollow sphere or radius 0.15m with rotational inertia=0.04 about a line through its centre of mass,rolls without slipping up a surface inclined
30 degree to the horizontal. At a certain initial position, the sphere's total kinetic energy is 20J.

how much of this initial kinetic energy is rotational??

pls help.i can't do it

[tex]K_{tot}=K_{lin} + K_{rot}[/tex]

Since you have rolling without slipping (I would assume) then [tex]v = R \omega[/tex].

-Dan
 
then, 0.5m(r^2)(w^2) + 0.5 I (w^2) =20J
from here,i don't have the w and m
how to continue
 
teng125
Write the equation of rotational kinetic energy about a point where V = 0 m/s. By doing so you can solve for omega.
 
for v=0?? so, is it just the rotatioanl energy only and without 1/2 (mv^2)??
 
Yes, V=0 m/s is at the point where the sphere touches the surphase. You would have to recalculate moment of inertia at that point and solve for omega. Then use the omega in your first equation to solve for rotational kinetik energy.
 
what u mean again is it 1/2 (2/5) m (r^2) (w^2) = 20J??
but i don't have the mass

pls help
 
still can't do.pls show me the eqn on how u do it
thanx
 
  • #10
Nevermind about finding rotational kinetic energy about a point where V=0 m/s.

Here is another approach.
[tex]I_{c} = 2/3MR^2\ kg*m^2[/tex]
Where [tex]I_{c} = 0.04\ kg*m^2[/tex]
Using this equation you can solve for the mass of the sphere.
 
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  • #11
i got 9.51 J but the answer is 8 J
 
  • #12
I got 8 J, check your math.
 
  • #13
for m = 2.67kg
then 1/2m(v^2) + 2/5I(w^2) =20 then w= 21.81

then how to continue??
 
  • #14
Plug m=(3/2)*Ic/R^2 in 1/2m(w^2)(R^2) + (1/2)I(w^2) =20
You will get w^2 = 16/Ic where Ic=0.04 kg*m^2
Solve for w (20 rad/s)
Plug w in Kr = (1/2)*Ic*w^2
 
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  • #15
why is the moment of inertia changes from 2/3(mr^2) to 2/5(mr^2) ??
 
  • #16
It did not Ic = 2/3(mr^2)
I copied this equation from your message 1/2m(w^2)(R^2) + (2/5)I(w^2) =20. It should be 1/2m(w^2)(r^2) + 1/2Ic(w^2) = 20
 
  • #17
oh...okok
 

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