How much physics does EE contain?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between physics and electrical engineering (EE), particularly focusing on the extent of physics content within EE programs compared to other fields like engineering physics. Participants explore the balance between theoretical physics and practical engineering applications, as well as the implications for students considering a career in EE.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a strong interest in physics and questions the amount of physics included in EE programs, noting a lack of specific physics subjects in course listings.
  • Another participant suggests that the amount of physics in EE can vary widely, from minimal to extensive, depending on the specialization within the field.
  • It is mentioned that certain areas of EE, such as communications and digital circuit design, may require less physics knowledge, while fields like semiconductor device physics and electromagnetics may involve more physics concepts.
  • A junior EE major shares their experience, indicating that their physics education was limited to a couple of general physics courses, with more physics-heavy content appearing at the graduate level.
  • One participant emphasizes the difference in focus between physicists and electrical engineers, noting that engineers are often more design-oriented.
  • Another suggestion is made to consider engineering physics programs, which may offer more physics courses while still being accredited as engineering degrees.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the amount of physics in EE varies significantly based on specialization, but there is no consensus on a definitive amount or depth of physics content across all EE programs.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of checking specific program requirements and course offerings at different universities, as there can be considerable variance in the physics content of EE programs.

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Individuals considering a career in electrical engineering or engineering physics, as well as those interested in the interplay between physics and engineering disciplines.

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Sorry in advance for the long winded question;

I really want to take physics. I love the theories and different ways to approach things, and the way it opens your eyes in a way that you can never see the world the same again. I am sure many people here understand this passion and interest. And I am sure some opted for Engineering instead as way to still have some physics, but learn more of a "trade" application which would result in better chances for employment.

I have already been in the industry as an Electronic Technician for 13 years. I have been building and desining my own guitar amplifier circuits from the ground up for a decade, and I have always been tinkering and building anything I need at my house, like furniture, home theater speaker enclosures, designing my own speaker enclosures of different difficulty levels such as "tapped horn" designs.

To me it would make sense to enter into EE and bring something new to the table. However, looking at different programs from different universities, and I don't see nearly as many physics subjects as I thought would be present.. like quantum mechanics, special relativity, general relativity, optics, electromagnetism, vibrations and waves etc.. Maybe I am just not understanding some of the course titles in the EE programs, which encompass many of these subjects but not necessarily in the same way?

I was looking into Engineering Physics, but then apparently there is this "brace yourself" amount of work above and beyond the standard EE program. I guess I would like to know if EE does have a substantial portion of physics, but maybe shift the depth toward a few different concepts?

Thank you
 
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It can range from "a sufficient amount" to "none at all."

EE is an extraordinarily large discipline. Some areas require absolutely no physics. Some only require a little background knowledge to do the design. Some require as much physics as a physics undergraduate would have to know (and possibly some grad-level courses).

I don't imagine any electrical engineer will need to know general relativity in the near future. Special relativity would be useful for a few specialized purposes, like the Doppler effect, but not to a huge extent.

Specializations like communications, digital circuit design, signal processing, etc. probably involve much less physics than you'd expect. If you'd want physics, you'd want to look into areas like semiconductor device physics, electromagnetics/antennas/RF engineering, or optics.

I'm a junior undergrad EE major, so I can speak regarding undergraduate coursework. I took two calculus-based General physics classes. That was the extent of my physics education from the physics department (though I did take extra for fun, but I'm merely talking about required courses). In EE, I've taken a course in electromagnetics and a course in semiconductor devices, both of which can be physics heavy.

From what I see, a lot of the really physics-heavy stuff happens at the graduate level if you wanted to go with that route. I've seen departments that do tons of work on electromagnetics (computational, antennas, theory, etc.), optics (you may want to look up quantum optics) and photonics, and semiconductor device physics.
 
Thank you very much for your input, you answered my question very efficiently. I think from here I should probably speak with people from those departments and see what they have to say about it.

Cheers
 
Of course I must stress that the ultimate goal is design, so there's a fundamental difference between the types of problems many physicists work on and the type electrical engineers work on. There probably isn't as big of a difference in industry, though.

Nothing's stopping an electrical engineer from learning high-level physics either, though.
 
Look into engineering physics programs. Should still be accredited as an engineering profession, but typically have more room for upper division physics classes.

Make sure you check the school of choice program, sometimes there are lots of variance in this major.
 

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