How much Statistics Courses will I need as a Double Major in Physics/Math?

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The discussion revolves around the necessity and extent of statistics courses for students pursuing a double major in Physics and Mathematics. Participants explore the requirements at different universities, the relevance of statistics in their respective programs, and the practical applications of statistical knowledge in physics and math contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a basic understanding of statistics, such as standard deviation and T-tests, may suffice for lab classes, while others argue that practical work in physics may require more advanced statistical methods.
  • One participant mentions that their combined math/physics program only required one course in probability, indicating that further statistical knowledge could be beneficial but is not mandatory.
  • Another participant notes that their honors probability/statistics course did not cover essential statistical concepts, raising concerns about the adequacy of their education in this area.
  • Some participants highlight that different universities have varying requirements for statistics courses, with some only requiring a single introductory course for math majors.
  • One participant expresses that they might not need to take a formal statistics course, suggesting that self-study of specific topics could be sufficient for their future studies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not agree on the necessity and extent of statistics courses required for a double major in Physics and Mathematics. Multiple competing views exist regarding the importance of formal education in statistics versus self-study and the varying requirements across different institutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that the relevance of statistics may depend on specific courses taken and the focus of their studies, indicating that the discussion is influenced by individual academic paths and institutional requirements.

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Right, the question is how much Stats do I need? I am aiming for a double major in Math and Physics

I know that at some point I will have to take First-year stats (AP Statistics?), but what is beyond that? How many of those permutations/combinatorial courses will I need?

By the way, I am a freshman already, but I already finished Calculus III (I took it when I was a high school student at a community college).
 
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To pass the degree probably none (maybe knowing how to do a std dev/T-test/chi-squared for a lab class)
Actually working in physics - it depends.
Ranges from the "if you need more that 1st year intro stats - you are fooling yourself and should get better data"
To the "we have zero data but with enough Bayesian stats and Maximum Entropy Deconvolution - we can get a conclusion"
 
Well in my university by doing the combined math/physics programme I took only one course in probability.

Next year I'll start Graduate Studies in math (MSC, hopefully to tranfer to direct Phd), and maybe I'll take a course in statistical theory, but I am not obliged to take it, it may help me understand better the stuff I am doing in my labs.

So to summarise, you may need to take only one course over the span of your bsc degree, but in a whole to do science you will need to read beyond this introductory course.
 
It depends completely on the school. I'm a math/physics major as well, and the way things are going I'll graduate without knowing what a T-test is, and I took the honors section of prob/stat! But we used a graduate level textbook and I don't know that we even spent a single lecture on statistics or that the textbook even mentioned it.
 
Any math major at my university has to take a Probability and Statistics course. The course is taken during the 2nd semester of the second year.
For physicists, I'm not really sure. You have to know (and apply) some for the lab experiences/reports but there's no whole course dedicated to it. Maybe there's some statistics inside a course called Mathematical Methods in Physics (a 2nd semester of the 3rd year course, for physics majors) but I'm not 100% since I'll reach this point next semester.
 
In my school, you only need to take one statistics course to earn a degree in mathematics. It's a basic know how to do statistics with a computer. Besides that, different universities have different requirements. You can pick up all the statistics you need along the way in your physics courses.

Just pick up this https://www.amazon.com/dp/0935702423/?tag=pfamazon01-20

& you'll be fine in physics.
 
fluidistic said:
Any math major at my university has to take a Probability and Statistics course. The course is taken during the 2nd semester of the second year.
For physicists, I'm not really sure. You have to know (and apply) some for the lab experiences/reports but there's no whole course dedicated to it. Maybe there's some statistics inside a course called Mathematical Methods in Physics (a 2nd semester of the 3rd year course, for physics majors) but I'm not 100% since I'll reach this point next semester.

But doesn't a double major has to take just as many math courses as a math major?
 
To OP: I'm planning a similar degree to you, except I have too many units to study statistics, which is generally a prereq for some physics courses. What I found out what that freshman stats covers topics not essential to physics whilst only some are, so I don't have to take the course as long as I learn a few topics over the holidays. It's quite minimal, so really you'd have to take no actual courses for physics or maths. If you know what subjects you plan to take in the future, find out which stats topics are required from other students, and study them on your own.
 

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