How Much Voltage Does a Bird Feel on a Power Line?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a bird standing on an electric transmission line with a specified current and resistance per meter. Participants are exploring how to calculate the voltage the bird feels based on the given parameters.

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  • Participants discuss the resistance of the wire between the bird's feet and how to apply the formula for voltage (V = IR). There are questions about the relevance of resistivity and cross-sectional area, as well as how to correctly calculate the total resistance based on the length of wire between the bird's feet.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications about the calculations involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of resistance per unit length to find the total resistance for the section of wire in question. There are ongoing attempts to clarify misunderstandings about the formulas and the information provided.

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Participants note the lack of certain information, such as the cross-sectional area of the wire, which leads to confusion. There is also a reminder to post homework problems in the appropriate subforum.

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I have a homework problem I am stuck on can some one help?

A bird stands on an electric transmission line carrying 3100 A. of current. The line has 3.0E-05 ohm resistance per meter, and the bird's feet are 2.0 cm. apart. What voltage does the bird feel?

Thanks!
 
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sp1974 said:
I have a homework problem I am stuck on can some one help?

A bird stands on an electric transmission line carrying 3100 A. of current. The line has 3.0E-05 ohm resistance per meter, and the bird's feet are 2.0 cm. apart. What voltage does the bird feel?

Thanks!
What is the resistance of the wire between the bird's feet? The voltage is just IR.

AM
 
Andrew Mason said:
What is the resistance of the wire between the bird's feet? The voltage is just IR.

AM

That is all the info that was given for the problem
 
sp1974 said:
That is all the info that was given for the problem

No, you misunderstand. Andrew Mason was hinting at the first step in answering this question. It is possible to answer Andrew Mason's question using the information you have been given. You know the resistance per unit length, and you know what length of cable is between the bird's feet.

By the way, please post homework problems in the Homework Help subforum in the future.
 
yes but I am looking for resistance and don't have the cross sectional area of the wire. the formula I have was R= (resistivity of wire) Length/Area
 
sp1974 said:
yes but I am looking for resistance and don't have the cross sectional area of the wire. the formula I have was R= (resistivity of wire) Length/Area

You don't need any of that information, because the problem already tells you how much resistance a one-metre section of this type of wire has. All you need to do is figure out how long a section spans the distance between the bird's feet.
 
So R=(3e-5 ohm).02m/A ? Still have 2 unknowns
 
sp1974 said:
So R=(3e-5 ohm).02m/A ? Still have 2 unknowns

I don't understand what you are doing. Where does 'A' come from? What you have been given in the problem is:

\frac{\textrm{resistance}}{\textrm{length}}​

in units of ohms/metre. To figure out the total resistance in the section of wire of interest, all you have to do is multiply this number by "length" to end up with just "resistance."
 
it is the formula we were given for the resistivity of material
 
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so 3e-5/.02m = .0015ohms

Is that right? If so how do I translate that to the voltage?
 
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sp1974 said:
it is the formula we were given for the resistivity of material

I realize that. What I'm saying (and what I said in post #6) is that it is not relevant here. You don't need to know the resistivity or the cross-sectional area. They would only be useful if you were trying to calculate the total resistance of a piece of material from scratch. But this problem tells you how much resistance per metre this wire has. Therefore, to figure out the resistance of a section of it, all you need to know is the length of that section.
 
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sp1974 said:
so 3e-5/.02m = .0015ohms

Is that right?

No, it's not. Think about it. You have resistance OVER length. How do you combine that with 'length' in order to get just 'resistance.' Hint 1: the answer is not division. Hint 2: the result should obviously end up with units of ohms.

sp1974 said:
If so how do I translate that to the voltage?

Assuming you eventually find the right answer for the resistance of that section of wire, Andrew Mason already told you how to use that to find the voltage across that section.
 
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sorry I read the one post to quick and didnt understand right. The bird feels .00186V. Thanks!
 

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