How much work is done by frictional force on a block moving toward equilibrium?

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The problem involves a 20-kg block on a horizontal surface connected to a spring, where the block is displaced from its equilibrium position and experiences kinetic energy changes due to friction. The inquiry focuses on determining the work done by the frictional force as the block moves toward equilibrium.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between kinetic energy and friction, with some suggesting that the work done by friction can be found by comparing kinetic energy with and without friction. Others question how to find the velocity needed to calculate kinetic energy.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using conservation of energy principles to relate kinetic energy and work done by friction. There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, with no explicit consensus reached on the final calculations.

Contextual Notes

One participant notes a lack of familiarity with the conservation of energy principle, indicating a potential gap in understanding that may affect the discussion. The mention of a coefficient of friction is also raised, although it is suggested that it may not be necessary for this problem.

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A 20-kg block on a horizontal surface is attached to a light spring (force constant = 8.0 kN/m). The block is pulled 10 cm to the right from its equilibrium position and released from rest. When the block has moved 2.0 cm toward its equilibrium position, its kinetic energy is 13 J. How much work is done by the frictional force on the block as it moves the 2.0 cm?

do I need a coefficient of friction to solve this?
 
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You are told what the blocks kinetic energy is with friction, so if you solve for what it should be without friction then the difference is the work done by the frictional force...no coefficient of friction needed.
 
ok, I get that but how would I find the velocity to get the kinetic energy?

ke = 1/2 M*V^2

or am I still not getting it?
 
c4iscool said:
ok, I get that but how would I find the velocity to get the kinetic energy?

ke = 1/2 M*V^2

or am I still not getting it?
You need to apply the total conservation of energy principle. Are you familiar with it?
 
ummm...no. I'm about to google it tho, but please explain.
 
c4iscool said:
ummm...no. I'm about to google it tho, but please explain.
In the absence of non conservative forces other than friction, you should discover that [tex]\Delta K + \Delta U + W_{friction}= 0[/tex]. Now you must apply it.
 
I got it. I think it works out to be -1.4J
 
c4iscool said:
I got it. I think it works out to be -1.4J
Looks right. Even your minus sign is correct. I slipped on mine, sorry, I should have said [tex]\Delta K + \Delta U - W_{friction} = 0[/tex]
 

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