How quickly does light turn on once you've hit the switch?

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The discussion centers on the speed at which light turns on after a switch is flipped, exploring the propagation of electrical signals and the behavior of electrons in a circuit. It touches on concepts of electrical fields, drift velocity, and the differences in response times among various types of light sources.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how quickly electricity reaches the light bulb after flipping the switch, noting conflicting information about the speed of light and the slow flow of electrons.
  • Another participant explains that the change in the electrical field propagates at a significant fraction of the speed of light, suggesting a time frame of tens to hundreds of nanoseconds for voltage to reach the light bulb.
  • The same participant emphasizes that while the drift velocity of electrons is much slower, the immediate sensation of pulling on a metal rod illustrates the rapid transmission of the electrical field change.
  • A follow-up question seeks clarification on the exact speed of the electrical field propagation compared to the speed of light.
  • Another participant estimates that the propagation speed is roughly 2/3 the speed of light, but notes that the actual time until light is emitted can vary significantly depending on the type of lamp used.

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Participants express differing views on the speed of light and the behavior of electrons, with some agreement on the significance of the electrical field's propagation speed, but no consensus on the exact values or implications for different types of lighting.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about circuit configurations and the specific types of lamps discussed, which may affect the timing of light emission.

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Once you flipped the switch how quickly does the electricity reach the light bulb? I've read somewhere that it's at the speed of light but I might be wrong, I've also read somewhere that electrons flow very very slow so I can't understand how will lights will turn on instantly.
 
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The change in the electrical field is what matters, and it propagates at a significant fraction of the speed of light - so we're talking maybe tens or hundreds of nanoseconds from switch closing to voltage across the filament of the light bulb.

The drift velocity of the electrons in the wire is much smaller, but that's something different. If you and I are holding opposite ends of a long metal rod and I pull on my end, you'll feel it almost immediately whether I pull quickly or slowly.
 
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Nugatory said:
The change in the electrical field is what matters, and it propagates at a significant fraction of the speed of light - so we're talking maybe tens or hundreds of nanoseconds from switch closing to voltage across the filament of the light bulb.

The drift velocity of the electrons in the wire is much smaller, but that's something different. If you and I are holding opposite ends of a long metal rod and I pull on my end, you'll feel it almost immediately whether I pull quickly or slowly.
Oh, thank you! that clarifies a lot. One more question, regarding to the electrical field propagating "at a significant fraction of the speed of light", exactly how quickly is the propagation in comparison to the speed of light.
 
Roughly 2/3, but it depends on the circuit.

The time until there is actual light emitted can be much longer, by the way. With LEDs it is fast, but other types of lamps need some time to heat up before they work.
 
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