How seriously will colleges take non-AP classes?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the perception and evaluation of non-AP classes in the context of college applications, particularly focusing on how colleges view weighted grades from non-official AP classes compared to traditional AP and dual enrollment courses. Participants explore the implications for students' GPAs and overall college admissions prospects.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern that colleges may not take weighted grades from non-official AP classes seriously, potentially affecting their transcript and GPA perception.
  • Another participant mentions that some colleges may recalculate GPAs based on their understanding of a school's grading practices, specifically citing practices in New York City schools as an example.
  • There is a suggestion that colleges consider the difficulty of courses when evaluating applications, though this remains uncertain.
  • A participant notes that dual enrollment courses may have a better reputation than AP courses, which have seen a decline in credibility over the past decade.
  • It is proposed that standardized test scores and other accomplishments may carry more weight than grades in AP classes, with a caution that grades below an "A" could negatively impact applications.
  • One participant recommends pursuing dual enrollment courses over AP classes, arguing that grades from accredited college courses are valued more highly by selective colleges.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the seriousness with which colleges regard non-AP classes, with some suggesting a decline in AP course reputation and others emphasizing the importance of course difficulty. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific impact of non-official AP classes on college admissions.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying college policies on GPA recalculation and differing perceptions of course difficulty across institutions. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on how colleges evaluate non-AP classes and the implications for students' applications.

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Hi everyone, just a quick question about college applications. I'm in a STEM program at a public school, and some of the classes that I take are weighted as AP even though they are not official AP classes. Some people that I've talked to have seemed to disregard these as just the school being too easy and them acting as GPA boosters, and I'd like to know if colleges will have a similar attitude. My school is pretty reputable, but will there be colleges that don't take them seriously? I'm starting to get a little worried that they won't, and if this is the case than my transcript (and GPA) will look much weaker than it should.
 
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if a college is knowledgeable of the grading practices of a school/system, for example, new york city schools, they can and sometimes will recalculate the applicants GPA and use that in their decision. before anyone starts screaming, I heard that directly from an admissions counselor at a university where my oldest currently attends, this individual told me that they routinely do it to counter act the public schools grade inflation policies, i.e. upping the points for an AP course.
 
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if a college is knowledgeable of the grading practices of a school/system, for example, new york city schools, they can and sometimes will recalculate the applicants GPA and use that in their decision. before anyone starts screaming, I heard that directly from an admissions counselor at a university where my oldest currently attends, this individual told me that they routinely do it to counter act the public schools grade inflation policies, i.e. upping the points for an AP course.

They do take into account the difficulty of the courses though, right? It seems silly to me that someone that might be taking way, way easier classes than me could have a higher unweighted GPA and therefore be preferred by colleges.
 
thomaddox4 said:
They do take into account the difficulty of the courses though, right? It seems silly to me that someone that might be taking way, way easier classes than me could have a higher unweighted GPA and therefore be preferred by colleges.

I don't have an answer for that...you'd have to check with the admissions office at the school you are applying to, each university has different policies.
 
From what I can tell, dual enrollment courses tend to have a better reputation for college admissions than AP courses, whose reputation has been in gradual decline for the past 10-15 years. Test scores (ACT, SAT Subject, etc.) and other accomplishments also carry more weight than grades in AP classes and other classes. There are very few high schools whose grades are trusted any more by selective colleges and universities.

Grades below an "A" can work against you. If you are taking the most challenging courses available at your school, earning As in those courses will not usually work against you. But you need to do well on the standardized tests (AP, ACT, etc.)

Given the decline in reputation of AP courses and the uncertain outcomes on AP exams, I recommend taking the dual enrollment equivalents if at all possible. Earning As in accredited Calc 1 and Calc 2 courses through a local college means a lot more than AP Calc, etc.
 

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