How should I prepare for a Physics Undergrad?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around how to prepare for a physics undergraduate program, focusing primarily on the necessary mathematical foundations and resources. Participants share recommendations for textbooks and study strategies to build essential skills in algebra, trigonometry, geometry, and calculus, as well as inquiries into physics-related materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting with basic algebra, progressing through intermediate algebra, trigonometry, and then calculus, emphasizing the importance of applied problem-solving skills.
  • Another participant recommends specific textbooks for algebra and geometry, highlighting the clarity and motivation of theorems in certain books, while also suggesting a gradual approach to learning these subjects.
  • There is a suggestion to use a combination of pre-calculus and trigonometry books, with specific titles mentioned for their problem-solving approaches and unique content.
  • One participant notes that the study plan could take up to three years, indicating a significant commitment to foundational mathematics before advancing.
  • A participant expresses interest in physics books but is advised to wait until they have a solid understanding of basic mathematics before diving into physics material.
  • Another participant recommends the ALEKS online system for pre-calculus as a study resource.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of mastering foundational mathematics before tackling physics concepts. However, there are varying opinions on the specific resources and the timeline for preparation, indicating multiple approaches to the study plan.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a range of assumptions about prior knowledge and the time commitment required for preparation, with some participants suggesting a more gradual approach while others propose a more accelerated path depending on individual readiness.

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Hi. I am currently thinking about going back to school in a year or so in order to get a physics undergrad and I was wondering what I should study in order to best prepare myself. I haven't been in school for a while, and my last experience with maths was in high school (which I hardly have any solid memory of), but I am willing to do some self-studying if only to know the essentials (though ideally, I would also want to get a step-up on the material). Do you guys have any recommendations on what textbooks or concepts I should read up on here?
 
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  • Basic algebra or Introductory Algebra - one semester of study
  • Intermediate Algebra - one semester of study
  • Trigonometry - one semester of study, but you may need Geometry first; or you might learn the necessary Trigonometry from "Pre-Calculus" which combines more advanced Algebra and Trigonometry in the same course
  • Calculus & Analytic Geometry - one semester, but this you could start during your first real beginning Physics course for the science engineering students
  • More Calculus and maybe other Mathematic courses as you progress

You will need to be really good at applying Intermediate Algebra and basic Trigonometry for applied problem-solving. You would begin at a community college, if you have not been a student for a while.
 
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For Algebra, a general algebra book that universities use for their remedial algebra course is a good place to start.
Once you learn the equivalent of intermediate algebra, it is time to look into Geometry.

For geometry, I like Geometry by Edwin E. Moise. It provides answers, is very clear, and the theorems are highly motivated. Some of the problems, and the language can be a bit formal for someone who is new to mathematics. Granted, I read Moise after I finished Calculus 2, but I wished I would have learned about this book earlier.
Geometry by Harold Jacobs, get an earlier edition 2nd edition is great, it is a step below Moise. But, maybe it is better as an introduction to geometry.

For Trig, there is many options. My advice is to get Pre-Calculus book. Most standard pre-calculus books cover algebra and trigonometry. I like the idea of using 2 books.
David Cohen: Precalculus- A Problem Solving Approach, and Trigonometry by Gelfand. Supplement the trigonometry portions with Gelfand. There are many neat things in Gelfand not found in the typical Trig books. It is a supplement to a trigonometry course, not the sole textbook for a course.

Once you finish these, you can either get something like Serge Lang: Basic Mathematics, Axler: Pre-Calculus, or Simmons :Pre-Calculus, to get an even better understanding of these topics.

Or you can skip these last books mentioned and head straight to calculus, only if you are 100% you have a thorough understanding of foundational mathematics.

This plan of study, can take you up to 3 years. So if you are not willing to put in 3 years, then don't start.
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I'm going to look to purchasing these books soon.

I've noticed that all of the recommendations deal with mathematics, which makes sense since it is math-heavy. But are there any physics based books that you guys recommend I look at as well?
 
I suggest you get both Moise and Apostol. Apostol may or may not be beyond your scope. Its a good book, prices for it have been increasing, and it is one of those books you keep.
 
lmoh said:
Thanks for the advice guys. I'm going to look to purchasing these books soon.

I've noticed that all of the recommendations deal with mathematics, which makes sense since it is math-heavy. But are there any physics based books that you guys recommend I look at as well?

Not until you have a working knowledge of basic algebra, trig/geometry, differentiation and integration.
 
Try pre-calc in the ALEKS online system.
 

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