How to Apply Taylor Series at Infinity for x >> 1?

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The discussion revolves around applying Taylor series for the function f(x) = x√(1+x²)(2x²/3-1) + ln(x+√(1+x²)) in the context of large x (x >> 1). Participants explore how to derive approximations for this function as x approaches infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss deriving the function and evaluating limits as x approaches infinity. Questions arise about the validity of approximations and the use of Taylor series for large x, with suggestions to consider f(1/x) for better approximations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights on the need for a Laurent series for better approximations in this context. There is recognition of the challenges posed by divergent series and the behavior of the function as x increases.

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Participants note that the function approaches infinity, raising questions about the nature of approximations and the limitations of Taylor series in this scenario. The discussion includes considerations of divergent series and the need for alternative approaches.

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How to use Taylor series for condition x>>1? For example f(x)=x\sqrt{1+x^2}(2x^2/3-1)+\ln{(x+\sqrt{1+x^2})}

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I try to derived it and limit to infinity...for example first term \frac{x^4}{3\sqrt{1+x^2}}. Limit this to infinity is obviously infinity. Any advice?
Thank you.
 
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Well, the function goes to infinity, so every approximation should do the same.
What exactly do you want to calculate or approximate where?

In general, to get good approximations for large x, you can calculate the taylor series of f(1/x) and evaluate it around 0. That won't work with divergent series, however, where you might need a Laurent series.
 
mfb said:
Well, the function goes to infinity, so every approximation should do the same.
What exactly do you want to calculate or approximate where?

In general, to get good approximations for large x, you can calculate the taylor series of f(1/x) and evaluate it around 0. That won't work with divergent series, however, where you might need a Laurent series.
Nice trick, I tried it but for all derivative limit to 0 is divergent...for example 1.derivative of my f(1/x) is -\frac{1+1/x^2}{\pi x^4}. Yes I would like to examine a behaviour of this function for large x and approximate it for this case.
 
Well you'll need a Laurent series here, as I mentioned. If it stops, then you have a good approximation.
 

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