How to calculate a pump's operating point for a fully open control valve

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The discussion focuses on calculating the operating point of a centrifugal pump when all flow is through a control valve with a known flow coefficient (C_V), discharging to atmosphere. Participants explore methods to determine flow rate and differential pressure, considering the relationship between the pump curve and the system curve created by the valve.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about calculating flow rate and differential pressure for a centrifugal pump with a control valve, noting that the operating point will be on the pump curve corresponding to the flow and pressure drop across the valve.
  • Another participant suggests a traditional graphical method to find the operating point by plotting the system curve for the valve against the pump curve, mentioning the need to account for other system losses.
  • A follow-up question arises regarding the integration of head loss due to C_V into the system curve, specifically whether to use the flow rate equation directly or convert to a K factor first.
  • Another participant clarifies that a pressure vs flow curve should be created for each system component, indicating that the net system curve is the sum of these component curves and that either C_V or K factor can be used to produce the curve.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to create a system curve and the importance of considering all components in the system. However, there is some uncertainty regarding the best approach to incorporate head loss from C_V and whether to use direct equations or K factors.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need to account for additional losses in the system curve, but there is no consensus on the method for integrating head loss from C_V into the calculations.

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Engineers and technicians involved in pump system design, fluid dynamics, and control valve applications may find this discussion relevant.

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How to calculate the flow rate and pressure of a centrifugal pump through a fully open valve.
How do you calculate the flow rate and differential pressure (the operating point on the pump curve) for a centrifugal pump if all of the flow is through a single control valve with known ##C_V##, discharging to atmosphere?

Clearly the flow rate and differential pressure of the pump will be some point on the pump curve to match the flow and pressure drop across the valve. As the ##C_V## increases, that point will move further down the curve i.e. more flow at less pressure drop. It is easy enough to calculate the flow rate through a valve for a known pressure drop and ##C_V##, but if only the ##C_V## is known I struggle to work this out.

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The traditional way to do this is graphically. You have a pump curve from the manufacturer and can plot a 'system curve' for your valve (at any single fixed Cv). Where they intersect is your operating point. It is possible to 'calculate' the intersection, but you'll need to come up with a function to describe the pump curve. Don't forget any other significant (plumbing, filters, etc) losses in your system curve.
 
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Thanks for the reply that is very helpful. On most system curves I have seen the friction factor is used or K factor for fittings etc. Do I just add the head loss due to Cv directly from the flow rate equation for a valve or do I need to convert to a K factor first?
 
If I understand your question:
You need to create a 'pressure vs flow' curve for every system component that you want to consider. The 'net' system curve is the sum of those component curves. If you have Cv, use that to produce the curve; If you have K factor, use that - either will give you pressure as a function of flow.
 

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