How to Calculate Distances from Foci to Tangent Line on an Ellipse?

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This discussion focuses on calculating distances from the foci of an ellipse to its tangent line. The ellipse is defined by the equation $$\frac{x^2}{p^2}+\frac{y^2}{q^2}=1$$, with eccentricity $$\epsilon =\sqrt{1-\frac{q^2}{p^2}}$$. The parametrization of the ellipse is given by $$\gamma(t) = (p \cos t, q \sin t)$$, and the tangent line at any point $$p$$ is represented as $$l(t)=\gamma(t_0)+t\gamma'(t_0)$$. The distance from the foci $$f_1$$ and $$f_2$$ to the tangent line can be calculated using the projection formula, and it is established that the product of these distances is independent of the point $$p$$ on the ellipse.

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Hey! :o

I am looking at the following exercise:

Consider the ellipse $$\frac{x^2}{p^2}+\frac{y^2}{q^2}=1$$
where $p > q > 0$. The eccentricity of the ellipse is $\epsilon =\sqrt{1-\frac{q^2}{p^2}}$ and the points $(\pm \epsilon p, 0)$ on the $x$-axis are called the foci of the ellipse, which we denote by $f_1$ and $f_2$. Verify that $\gamma (t) = (p \cos t, q \sin t)$ is a parametrization of the ellipse. Prove that:
  1. The product of the distances from $f_1$ and $f_2$ to the tangent line at any point $p$ of the ellipse does not depend on $p$.
  2. If $p$ is any point on the ellipse, the line joining $f_1$ and $p$ and that joining $f_2$ and $p$ make equal angles with the tangent line to the ellipse at $p$.

Since $\gamma (t)=(p \cos t , q \sin t)$ we have that $\gamma '(t)=(-p\sin t, q\cos t)$.

The tangent line is given by $l(t)=\gamma (t_0)+t\gamma' (t_0)$.

How can we calculate the distances from $f_1$ and $f_2$ to the tangent line?

Could you give me some hints what we could do at the second question?
 
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mathmari said:
Since $\gamma (t)=(p \cos t , q \sin t)$ we have that $\gamma '(t)=(-p\sin t, q\cos t)$.

The tangent line is given by $l(t)=\gamma (t_0)+t\gamma' (t_0)$.

How can we calculate the distances from $f_1$ and $f_2$ to the tangent line?

Could you give me some hints what we could do at the second question?

Hi mathmari! (Wave)

The distance of a point $\mathbf F$ to a line $l$ through $\mathbf P$ in the direction $\mathbf d$, is given by:
$$d(\mathbf F, l) = ||\boldsymbol\pi_{\mathbf n}(\mathbf F-\mathbf P)|| = (\mathbf F-\mathbf P) \cdot \mathbf n$$
where $\boldsymbol\pi_{\mathbf n}$ is the projection on a normal $\mathbf n$ of the line (perpendicular to $\mathbf d$).
And that projection is given by the dot product if $\mathbf n$ is a vector of unit length.

In your case $\mathbf n$ is given by $(q\cos t, p\sin t)$.

For the second question I think you're supposed to use another application of the dot product.
 

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