How to Calculate Entropy and Enthalpy in a Thermodynamics Problem

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The discussion focuses on calculating entropy and enthalpy in a thermodynamics problem, specifically parts c and d of the homework. For part c, there is confusion regarding the calculation of entropy, with one participant suggesting that the correct method involves dividing the heat change by temperature, leading to a different entropy value than expected. In part d, the approach to find temperature is questioned, with one participant noting a potential error in using 1 kg for mass in the equation. The conversation emphasizes the importance of using accurate mass values for precise calculations. Overall, the participants seek clarification on their methods and calculations in thermodynamics.
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I don't know how to do part c and part d. The answers are 1223 Jkg-1K-1 , 213.3 K respectively. (Answer for enthalpy not given)

It seems that they get the answer of part c by dividing 334kJ by 273 and multiply by 100 seconds.
However, Isn't that ds = dQ/T ? Change of Q in 100 seconds is 25130 J by part a, so isn't the entropy 25130/273 = 92.05 ? For the enthalpy, isn't it 25130J?

For part d, my answer is not accurate, my idea is as follow:
C(400)(T-213)=C(1)(273-T)
I got T=213.149K , why am I wrong?

Thank you so much
 

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Your assessment seems totally correct to me.
 
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Chestermiller said:
Your assessment seems totally correct to me.
Thanks for pointing that out. Why am I wrong?
 
Clara Chung said:
Thanks for pointing that out. Why am I wrong?
I don't think you are wrong.
 
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Clara Chung said:
For part d, my answer is not accurate, my idea is as follow:
C(400)(T-213)=C(1)(273-T)
The only thing that I see that is wrong is using 1 kg for the mass on the right side of the equation above. But, if you use the correct amount of mass, it won't really make much difference in the answer.
 
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