How to Calculate Heat Generated on R2 After Finding Voltage and Charge?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the heat generated on resistor R2 after determining the voltage and charge in a circuit involving capacitors C1, C2, and C3. The problem includes concepts from circuit theory and conservation of charge.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the initial conditions of the circuit, including the charging and discharging of capacitors. There are questions about the units of voltage and charge, as well as the application of conservation of charge during the redistribution of charge after closing switch S2.

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Some participants have confirmed their understanding of the problem setup and the conservation principles involved. There is ongoing exploration of how to apply these principles to find the relationship between charges on the capacitors before and after closing switch S2. Guidance has been provided regarding the need to clarify units and the conditions at different time points.

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Participants are working under the assumption that all capacitors are initially uncharged and that the circuit configuration changes when switches S1 and S2 are manipulated. There is a focus on ensuring that the definitions and units of measurement are clear to all involved.

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Homework Statement
c1=c3=2,c2=4.switch s1 is closed while s2 is open. A long time after s2 is closed and s1 is opened.

A long time after S2 IS CLOSED,

Find the charge in c3.

The sum of energy stored in c2 and c3.

Heat generated in R2.
Relevant Equations
V=IR,Q=CV,W=1/2CV2
I WAS ABLE TO FIND THE voltage in c1 ,c2 which are 4,2.THE CHARGES ARE THE SAME(8).
I DONOT KNOW HOW TO CONTINUE.
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Hello again,

Please help me understand the problem statement (by rendering it completely ?). So far I have the scenario
  • all capacitors are uncharged. s1 and s2 are open
  • s1 is closed -- this charges C1 and C2
  • s1 is opened
  • s2 is closed -- this redistributes the charge from C2 over C2 and C3
Did I get it correctly ?

Also, how can you get numerical results (4,2 things of what ? Charge 8 of what?)

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yeah. you got it correct.
Things of what in the sense if you are referring to the units v and c.(I don't know what you are asking.
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First of all you got to mention the units (as @BvU said) of capacitance ,voltage and charges. Are they 2 and 4 Farads respectively and 4V (Volts) and 2 V respectively and 8 Coulomb charge each?

Second , to answer what happens after S2 is closed (and S1 opened) you have to use conservation of charge and equality of voltages. Long time after S2 is closed, there is no current through the resistor ##R_2##, hence by applying KVL we get that $$V_2=V_3\iff \frac{Q_2}{C_2}=\frac{Q_3}{C_3}$$.

What do you get if you apply conservation of charge for the moment before S2 is closed (S1 opened) at which all the charge ##Q## is inside ##C_2## and for the final moment which is long time after S2 is closed and the initial charge ##Q## of ##C_2## has been redistributed in ##Q_2## (final charge on ##C_2## ) and ##Q_3## (final charge on ##C_3##)?
 
I NEED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT how to apply conservation of charge.
units YOU mention are correct.
 
aang said:
I NEED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT how to apply conservation of charge.
Well, in order to apply any conservation principle one has to discriminate between two moments in time: (##t_1## and ##t_2##) and then equate the conserved quantity (which here is the charge) as ##charge (t_1)=charge (t_2)##
Here in this problem we have:
  • time ##t_1##: BEFORE S2 is closed the charge Q=8Coulomb is all in ##C_2##
  • time ##t_2##:long time AFTER S2 is closed we have charge ##Q_2## in ##C_2## and ##Q_3## in ##C_3##
what conservation of charge tell us for the relation between ##Q##, ##Q_2## and ##Q_3##
 
Sorry I edited my post #6, it was not completely correct.
 
Q3=8/3c
Q2=16/3c
 
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aang said:
Q3=8/3c
Q2=16/3c

Yes I think that is correct
 
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I GOT IT.
 
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How will you calculate the heat generated on ##R_2##?
 

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