How to Calculate the Alpha Particle's Velocity After Collision?

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The problem involves a collision between a proton and an alpha particle, focusing on the calculation of the alpha particle's velocity after a perfectly elastic collision. The context includes kinetic energy and conservation laws in a physics setting.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the unknowns involved in the problem, including final energies and angles. There is a focus on identifying conserved quantities relevant to the collision, such as momentum and kinetic energy.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the application of conservation laws. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conservation of momentum, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take or the values needed for calculations.

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Participants note the lack of initial and final speeds as a constraint, and there is mention of the need to compute initial velocity from given kinetic energy and mass of the proton.

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A proton with initial kinetic energy (5.2 MeV) collides with an alpha particle (initially at rest). The collision is perfectly elastic and the proton travels off at an angle of 133o relative to its initial direction. What is the velocity of the alpha particle after the collision? Assume the alpha particle has four times the mass of a proton.

My teacher made this problem but I'm trying to solve it and I need final velocity to find the answer and its not given.
 
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You have 3 unknowns:

1) Final proton energy
2) Final alpha energy (or velocity)
3) Final alpha angle

But you also have 3 conserved quantities. Can you name them?

Bob S
 
Bob S said:
You have 3 unknowns:

1) Final proton energy
2) Final alpha energy (or velocity)
3) Final alpha angle

But you also have 3 conserved quantities. Can you name them?

Bob S

kinetic, momentum , can't think of the last one.
 
you only need conservation of momentum
 
fizzynoob said:
you only need conservation of momentum

I don't know initial and finial speed.
 
cheater1 said:
I don't know initial and finial speed.

You know kinetic energy, you should know the proton mass, so you can compute initial velocity.
 
You have 3 unknowns:

1) Final proton energy
2) Final alpha energy (or velocity)
3) Final alpha angle

But you also have 3 conserved quantities. Can you name them?
cheater1 said:
kinetic, momentum , can't think of the last one.
Momentum is a vector quantity. Does this help?

Bob S
 

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