How to compare potential advisers for grad school?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around strategies for selecting potential advisers for graduate school, focusing on how to evaluate their suitability, the importance of communication, and the role of current students' experiences in the decision-making process.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest asking potential supervisors about their expectations regarding student schedules, independence, and publishing, among other topics.
  • There is a recommendation to inquire about the number of students supervised and their subsequent success, as well as funding mechanisms.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of speaking with current graduate students and post-docs to gain insights into the adviser's true nature.
  • Another participant questions how to initiate conversations with current graduate students, expressing concern about accessibility.
  • Some participants argue that if an adviser is unwilling to allow prospective students to speak with current students, it may indicate potential issues with the adviser's mentorship style.
  • A humorous analogy is made comparing the decision of choosing a PhD adviser to buying a car, emphasizing the need for thorough investigation before making a commitment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of communication and gathering information from current students, but there is some uncertainty regarding how to effectively initiate these conversations with students in a lab setting.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the availability of current students and the willingness of advisers to facilitate these discussions remain unresolved.

LogicX
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How do you go about actually narrowing down potential advisers from different schools? What are some tips for visitations that will help with this decision? How does one compare the prestige of different advisers? Counting publications seems silly and asking around your undergrad department could be skewed.
 
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Here are some questions that I would ask potential supervisors (now that I've been on both sides of this issue):
- What expectations do you have of your students? (With respect to: schedule (daily and over the course of the project), independence, publishing, conference attendence, part-time jobs, etc.)
- How often would we meet?
- Do you prefer formal or informal meetings?
- How many students have you supervised?
- What projects have your former students worked on?
- Were they successful?
- Where are they now?
- How does student funding work?
- How many students do you currently have?

Obviously you don't have to ask these exact questions, but while interviewing with potential advisors it's a good idea to ask open ended questions to initiate a real dialogue. Although some of the questions may seem awkward at first, it's better to get them out of the way up front rather than (as some students do) wondering about them for half of their graduate time.

Another big tip is to talk with both current graduate students and post-docs in the department. This helps avoid getting stuck with somewho who bends the truth in answering such questions.
 
Choppy said:
Another big tip is to talk with both current graduate students and post-docs in the department. This helps avoid getting stuck with somewho who bends the truth in answering such questions.

This is probably the single best, and yet most rarely followed, advice for people looking for a grad supervisor. Ignore it at your great peril, LogicX.
 
How exactly will I have the opportunity to talk with their current grad students? It's not like they are going to let me loose in their lab...
 
Why shouldn't they? When you meet with the advisor, say, "I would like to speak to some of your current students about their experience in the group. Would that be OK?" If they say no, that alone should be a giant red flag. This is someone you're going to be supervised by for years. Good advisors don't take that lightly and want you to have as many opportunities as possible to see if you'll be a good fit.

I once had a professor joke, "The two most important decisions in my life were deciding who to do my PhD under and who I was going to marry. In that order." A bit extreme, perhaps, but it makes the point. You wouldn't buy a car without kicking the tires. If a professor won't let you speak to his or her current students, it's like someone selling a used car who won't let you get an inspection. So go ahead, kick the tires.
 
LastOneStanding said:
Why shouldn't they? When you meet with the advisor, say, "I would like to speak to some of your current students about their experience in the group. Would that be OK?" If they say no, that alone should be a giant red flag. This is someone you're going to be supervised by for years. Good advisors don't take that lightly and want you to have as many opportunities as possible to see if you'll be a good fit.

I once had a professor joke, "The two most important decisions in my life were deciding who to do my PhD under and who I was going to marry. In that order." A bit extreme, perhaps, but it makes the point. You wouldn't buy a car without kicking the tires. If a professor won't let you speak to his or her current students, it's like someone selling a used car who won't let you get an inspection. So go ahead, kick the tires.

I was going to reply to the OP, but there's no way I could have possibly stated it better than LastOneStanding has above.
 

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