How to Create a Wavy Circle Function on a Graph?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a mathematical function that represents a "wavy circle" on a graph. Participants explore various approaches, including modifications of existing functions and the use of polar coordinates, while also sharing challenges related to graphing and uploading images.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests the function $x + \sin x$ as a wavey line and seeks a function that resembles a wavey circle, proposing $\sqrt{r^2 - x^2} + \sin x$ but finds it unsatisfactory.
  • Another participant proposes $\sqrt{30 - x^2} + \frac{(\sin x)^2}{4}$ as a potential solution, noting that it can be adjusted by manipulating $\sin(x)$.
  • A participant expresses a desire for more visible oscillations on the circle, indicating a general interest in the topic.
  • Polar coordinates are suggested as a useful approach, with an example function $r = 1 + 0.1\sin(10\theta)$ provided.
  • Several posts focus on difficulties with uploading graphs, with one participant seeking help to delete existing uploads to share their graph.
  • Another participant shares a code snippet for plotting a wavy circle using parametric equations, indicating a practical approach to visualizing the concept.
  • A later post reiterates the function $f(x) = \sqrt{30 - x^2} + \frac{\sin(x^2)}{4}$, although it contains a typographical error in the sine term.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views and approaches to creating a wavy circle function, with no consensus reached on a definitive solution.

Contextual Notes

Some mathematical expressions contain typographical errors, and there are unresolved issues regarding the effectiveness of proposed functions and the challenges of graphing them.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring mathematical modeling, graphing techniques, or those seeking to understand oscillatory functions in a visual context.

Bushy
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If I graph $x+ \sin x $ it looks like a wavey line.

I want a function that looks like a wavey circle. I thought $\sqrt{r^2-x^2}+\sin x$ may work and played around with values for r, no such luck. Does anyone know a function to achieve this?
 
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[math]\sqrt{30-x^2}+\frac{(\sin x)^2}{4}[/math] seems sort of close. I don't know exactly what you're picturing in your head but you can adjust the fluctuations by manipulating sin(x).
 
Yep that's on the right track, was looking to see more visible oscillations on the cirlce if that makes sense.

This is more of a general interest type question
 
Seems like polar coordinates might be useful here. Something like
$$r=1+0.1\sin(10 \theta)$$
might work.
 
I'm trying to participate in this thread by adding a little graph, but I can't get the hang of the upload facility:
I have 2 objects visible in the upload box which i wish to delete so as to come under my quota but can't for the life of me see how to delete.

Without a delete, I can't upload the graph I want to share.

Anyone browsing able to help?

DeusAbs
 
DeusAbscondus said:
I'm trying to participate in this thread by adding a little graph, but I can't get the hang of the upload facility:
I have 2 objects visible in the upload box which i wish to delete so as to come under my quota but can't for the life of me see how to delete.

Without a delete, I can't upload the graph I want to share.

Anyone browsing able to help?

DeusAbs

Try deleting it http://www.mathhelpboards.com/profile.php?do=editattachments? If that doesn't work then tinyimage will let you upload it there and you can just link to it from here.
 
DeusAbscondus said:
I'm trying to participate in this thread by adding a little graph, but I can't get the hang of the upload facility:
I have 2 objects visible in the upload box which i wish to delete so as to come under my quota but can't for the life of me see how to delete.

Without a delete, I can't upload the graph I want to share.

Anyone browsing able to help?

DeusAbs
What is the function?
 
Jameson said:
Try deleting it http://www.mathhelpboards.com/profile.php?do=editattachments? If that doesn't work then tinyimage will let you upload it there and you can just link to it from here.

Hey guys,
I've taken Jameson wavy semi-circe and plotted inflection points on it (with some labour, got to tell you, as Geogebra found it beyond its brief to do it automatically) using perpendicular lines linking $f(x)$ with zeroed $f''(x)$

I've included it as a png screenshot from my pc, as I have been unsuccessful so far at uploading graphs or pics any other way.

Regs,
Deus Abs

PS this is very much in the category of enthusiastic beginner of calc with time on his hands, in the middle of coming to terms with the meaning of second derivative.
 
Wavey Circle:

Code:
>t=0:0.01:2*pi;
>
>r=1+0.1*cos(10*t);
>
>x=r*cos(t);
>y=r*sin(t);
>
>xplot(x,y);
>
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Bushy said:
What is the function?

$f(x)=\sqrt{30-x^2}+\frac{sin(x^2}{4}$
 

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