How to derive air drag formula?

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The discussion focuses on deriving the air drag formula for a thin disc moving through air, specifically the expression Fd = 0.5 C q v^2 A. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the kinematics of collisions between the disc and air molecules, treating air as a dense crowd of particles with concentration n0 and mass u. Key steps include calculating the number of air molecules colliding with the disc over a time interval and applying conservation of momentum and energy. The term "dimensionless" refers to the drag coefficient C, which is essential for the formula but may be negligible in certain contexts.

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  • Understanding of basic kinematics and collision theory
  • Familiarity with momentum and energy conservation principles
  • Knowledge of fluid dynamics, specifically air density and drag forces
  • Concept of dimensionless coefficients in physics
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Hello, I have very interesting physics problem. But i really have no idea how to solve it... Maybe somebody can give me some useful hints?

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"Air drag (air resistance, drag) is a resisitvie force which is the result of a moving object colliding with air molecules. Dervie the drag formula for a thin disc of area A moving with velocity v through the air. Treat the air as a dense crowd of tiny particles, of concentration n0 per m^3 and with each having a mass u. Treat the collision as elastic ones. You should obtain the expression of the form Fd = 0.5 C q v^2 A, where C is a dimensionless drag coefficient, and q is air density"
 
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You should probably start by getting the basic kinematics of the collision process down, for example, how many air molecules does the disk collide with in a time dt? Once you have this, you should probably then apply momentum and energy conservation to the collision. See where these suggestions take you.
 
so:
0|\
0 \ \ <--- A area
00 \ \
000 \ \
00000\|
<-->
x
0000 - molecules
Sorry for poor graph. So i can assume that: my area what is "pushing" by disc is Ax, in this area is Axn0 molecules, and mass of this area is Axn0u. I think that the molecules are not moving (so is false in reality, but there is written "dense crowd")
Probably i have now the solution, bu tell me please, what mean "dimensionless"? Because in my formula is no C, can I assume because of this "dimensionless" that C is so small so i can have this formula without C?
 
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