How to Derive cos(θ) in Relativistic Elastic Collisions?

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The discussion focuses on deriving the expression for cos(t) in the context of relativistic elastic collisions involving two identical particles A and B, where particle B is at rest. The key equations utilized include the Einstein Relation for energy and momentum, and the principles of conservation of energy and momentum. Participants emphasize the importance of using relativistic formulas for energy and momentum, specifically E = m/√(1 - v²/c²) and p = mv/√(1 - v²/c²), to accurately solve the problem. The conversation highlights the necessity of correctly applying these concepts to derive the desired expression.

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Homework Statement



Q: Consider two identical particles A and B have the same mass m in the inertial frame
R where B is at rest. The two particles collide and their trajectories after
impact are symmetrical with respect to the incident direction. Let t be the
angle between the trajectories after collision. Obtain an expression of cos t as
a function of the mass m and the kinetic energy T1 of the particle A.



Homework Equations



(i) Einstein Relation / Relativistic Energy Relation between energy and momentum
E^2 = (mc^2)^2 + (mod p)^2 *c^2

where E = energy
and p = momentum

(ii) Conservation of Energy: Energy before = Energy after

(iii) Conservation of Momentum: Momentum before = Momentum after

The Attempt at a Solution



Using Energy Conservation: T1 + mc^2 + mc^2 = Energy after

Using Momentum Conservation: ?

Since I do not know any velocities and I only know particle A has kinetic energy T1 and therefore total energy T1 + mc^2... I don't know how to complete this problem.

Also I try to do momentum conservation in the x-direction

so before the impact particle A would have p(x-component)

and after the impact particle A would have p1(x-component) = p1 *cos (t/2)

and after the impact particle B would have p2 (x-component) = p2 * cos(t/2)

Please help!

Thanks a lot guys
 
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Hi wam_mi! :smile:

(have a square-root: √ and try using the X2 and X2 tags just above the Reply box :wink:)
wam_mi said:
Using Energy Conservation: T1 + mc^2 + mc^2 = Energy after

Using Momentum Conservation: ?

Nooo … start again …

don't use T1 + mc2 … it's horrible and pointless …

use energy = m/√(1 - v2/c2) and momentum = mv/√(1 - v2/c2) :wink:
 

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