How to design parabolic leaf spring?

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The discussion centers on the design of parabolic leaf springs for vehicle suspension systems, particularly for heavy commercial vehicles. Participants explore various design parameters, software tools, and methodologies for creating effective spring profiles.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants emphasize the complexity of designing leaf springs, noting the importance of various factors such as required dimensions, ride height, load capacity, flex requirements, and spacing.
  • One participant provides specific design inputs for a heavy commercial vehicle, including dimensions, stiffness, load conditions, and required flex, and seeks formulas for designing the parabolic profile.
  • Another participant suggests that existing literature may provide insights but warns that the equations are not straightforward and involve calculus.
  • There is a suggestion to consider a trial-and-error approach rather than a purely theoretical one, with an example of a specific application from military vehicles.
  • One participant recommends experimenting with thinner leaves and lighter materials to potentially enhance performance.

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Participants express varying opinions on the best approach to design parabolic leaf springs, with no consensus on a single method or formula. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal design strategy.

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Participants mention various design parameters and conditions that may influence the spring design, but there are no established formulas or methods agreed upon. The complexity of balancing different requirements is highlighted.

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Individuals interested in vehicle suspension design, particularly in the context of heavy commercial vehicles, as well as those exploring practical engineering approaches to spring design.

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hi,
can anyone please help me to design a parabolic leaf spring for vehicle suspension...
is there any software available?
 
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ksachanta said:
hi,
can anyone please help me to design a parabolic leaf spring for vehicle suspension...
is there any software available?

Plz anyone can help me on this...?
 
It's not simple matter of saying "Make it like this"
You have to consider many variables:
(a) Is this a custom application? What is your req'd, if any, eye-to-eye dimension?
(b)What is the resultant ride height you are looking for?
(c) What load must the springs carry?
(d) How much flex is required?
(e) How far apart will they be situated?

These things all make a huge difference in designing leafs. Suspension systems (even leaf springs) are not cookie cutter.
 
Thanks for ur reply.
i want to design a parabolic spring for a heavy commercial vehicle.
the inputs are -
-- eye to eye length is ~ 1200mm to 1500 mm
-- width of leaf is taken as 70 mm or 90 mm
-- stifness required is 30 - 35 kgf/mm
-- load on each spring ranges from - 1300 kg to 1500 kg
-- flex required is about 60 - 100 mm (at laded condition)
-- camber ( free curvature of unloaded spring) is taken around 200mm
-- springs are situated at 850 mm apart.
-- Ride clearance(dist. from axle centre to chassis bottom to me maintained at 200mm

the spring to be checked for 2g load and 3.1g load (over load) conditions, where the flex will be maximum.

Here i have to decide on number of leaves required and Centre thickness & end thickness of leaves.
How could you design the parabolic profile of leaf once you got your center and end thicknesses.


Plz. help me on this .. I am unable to get exact formulas to design the spring .. suggest me some that know..

Thankyou very much .. waiting for ur reply...

Regards
Srikanth
 
https://www.modelica.org/events/modelica2006/Proceedings/sessions/Session2d1.pdf

That might give you some insight. I've never done this as the equations aren't anything simply like
(#leaves)*(eye-to-eye)=Spring_Dimensions
There is some calculus involved. You have your variables though, so you've got that going for you.

Take a look at how some existing springs are designed. Remember, the more accurate you want your calculations (that is, the more variables up there that you want to satisfy) the more difficult they will become. My experience with stuff like this: you have to trade some of your requirements for the ones that are more pressing. Like forfeiting some flex to support your load, or some ride height to allow your flex, etc.
 
I'm thinking that you might want to abandon your theoretical approach, and work by trial and error.

My favorite parabolic leaf springs are those aboard the US Army's J-118 Escort Wagon:

http://www.transchool.lee.army.mil/museum/transportation museum/wagons.htm

In particular, I like the scissor-spring shock absorbers of the driver's seat (a scissor-spring being, essentially, a double parabolic leaf spring with the open sides facing one another).

I would recommend experimentation with leaves as thin, and made of material as light, as possible. It might take a while, but it might make you rich!
 

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