How to Determine the Equation of a Parabola with Given Points and Gradient?

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The discussion revolves around determining the equation of a parabola given specific points and a gradient. The problem involves finding the constants a, b, and c in the quadratic equation y = ax² + bx + c based on the conditions provided, including points where the curve intersects the axes and the gradient at a specific point.

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Main Points Raised

  • Kafka presents the problem and outlines their attempts to find the values of a, b, and c, starting with substituting known points into the equation.
  • Kafka correctly identifies that c = 4 based on the y-intercept (0,4).
  • Kafka deduces that b = -5 from the gradient at the point (0,4).
  • Kafka attempts to find a by substituting the point (1,0) into the equation, leading to the conclusion that a = 1.
  • Some participants express agreement with Kafka's calculations, affirming the correctness of the approach taken.
  • Another participant suggests that the problem can be viewed as a projectile motion scenario, indicating a potential connection to physics concepts.
  • A participant notes that the problem is not related to differential equations, prompting a reclassification of the thread to the Calculus section.

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There is general agreement among participants regarding Kafka's calculations and approach, though the relevance to physics and the classification of the problem are debated.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not explicitly resolve the values of a, b, and c, nor do they confirm the overall correctness of the final equation derived by Kafka. The discussion remains focused on the process rather than a definitive conclusion.

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Hi there,

I have to complete the following question, but I have no idea how to approach it (there are four other parts to the question that I can't complete until I get the first bit). I have made numerous attempts, but am not sure how to get the a part of the equation.

All help would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Kafka

Question
A curve f(x) is defined by the equation : y = ax² + bx + c, where a, b and c are constants.

The curve crosses the y-axis at the point (0,4). At this point the gradient of the graph is -5.

The curve crosses the x-axis at point (1,0).

(i) Find the values of a, b, and c and write down the equation of the curve

Attempt

Sub point (0.4) into equation to get c (x=0,y=4):

y = ax² + bx + c
4 = 0 + 0 + c
c = 4

If gradient at point (0,4) is -5, then dy/dx must be equal to -5.

dy/dx = 2ax + b
-5 = 2ax + b
-5 = 2a(0) + b
-5 = 0 + b
b = -5

*not sure about the bit below*

c=-5, b=4, so sub these into equation of curve and use a point to find a

y = ax² + bx + c

at (1,0) x=1, y=0

y = ax² + bx + c
0 = a1² + (-5 x 1) + 4
0 = a -5 + 4
0 = a - 1
a = 1 ?
 
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Looks good to me :approve:
 
Now if only PHYSICS students will recognize this as a projectile problem...
 
Kafka, you did that exactly right.

It does, however, have nothing to do with "differential equations" so I am moving it to the Calculus section.
 

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