How to disprove (m^2)+m+1=(n^2)?

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The problem involves proving that there are no natural numbers \(m\) and \(n\) such that \(m^2 + m + 1 = n^2\). The discussion revolves around exploring algebraic manipulations and reasoning related to this equation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various algebraic transformations of the original equation, including rewriting it in different forms and analyzing the implications of those forms. Questions arise about the nature of the roots and the conditions under which the equation holds.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes multiple approaches to the problem, with participants offering different insights and methods for analyzing the equation. Some guidance has been provided, but there is no explicit consensus on a single method or solution path.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of natural numbers and are questioning the assumptions underlying their algebraic manipulations. There is an acknowledgment of potential circular reasoning in the approaches discussed.

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Homework Statement


"Prove: There exists no ##m,n∈ℕ## such that ##m^2+m+1=n^2##."

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I basically rewrote it as:

##m^2+2m+1=n^2+m##

or

##(m+1)^2=n^2+m##,

and subtracting ##n^2##, I get

##(m+1-n)(m+1+n)=m##.

Then I divided both sides of the equation by ##m## to get:

##(1+\frac{1}{m}-\frac{n}{m})(m+n+1)=1##.

I then argued that the only way for this to be possible was (1) if both terms on the left were ##1##, which would contradict the fact that ##m## and ##n## were positive integers, because if they were, the second term would be greater than one; or (2) if the two terms were multiplicative inverses of each other. The latter is the one I had trouble with, because it led to some kind of circular reasoning. Basically, I ended up with the exact same problem which I had to once again disprove. Can anyone provide me with any hints on how to approach this proof?
 
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I have no idea how to proceed from the point you got stuck. But I think, it could be done by solving ##m^2+m+(1-n^2)=0## for ##m## and then analyze the root. Also consider, that beside the root, the summand ##-\frac{1}{2}## that you get has to vanish, too.
 
Set m^2 + m + 1 - n^2 = (m - m_1)(m - m_2). What must m_1 + m_2 be?
 
Here's another idea. It seems to me that adding ##m +1## is not enough to get you from ##m^2## to the next square.
 
Thanks for the help. I finished it, by the way.
 

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