How to do mathematics research as undergraduate?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around how an undergraduate student can engage in mathematics research, particularly in number theory. Participants explore strategies for initiating research opportunities, the importance of faculty interaction, and the challenges of identifying suitable problems for undergraduate study.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to pursue research in number theory and seeks advice on approaching professors for undergraduate research opportunities.
  • Another participant suggests that discussing the topic with current professors could provide direction and potential research opportunities.
  • Some participants recommend approaching multiple professors to gather diverse advice and ideas regarding research.
  • There is a discussion about the difficulty of finding suitable problems for undergraduates, with one participant questioning how to identify appropriate research topics.
  • Another participant asserts that undergraduates should rely on advisors to present problems rather than seeking them independently due to a lack of experience.
  • A participant reflects on the significance of specific problems, such as the Collatz conjecture and Erdos-Straus conjecture, and questions their intrinsic value beyond their fame.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of engaging with faculty for research opportunities. However, there is disagreement on the approach to finding suitable problems for undergraduate research, with some advocating for independent exploration and others suggesting reliance on faculty guidance.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of experience and familiarity with number theory, which may influence their perspectives on research readiness and problem identification.

Who May Find This Useful

Undergraduate students interested in pursuing research in mathematics, particularly in number theory, as well as those seeking guidance on engaging with faculty and identifying research topics.

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Dear Physics Forum friends,

I am a college sophomore in US with double majors in mathematics and microbiology. My algorithmic biology research got me passionate about the number theory and analysis, and I have been pursuing a mathematics major starting on this Spring semester. I have been independently self-studying the number theory textbooks written by Niven/Zuckerman/Montgomery, Apostol, and Ireland/Rosen on this semester. As this semester progressed, I discovered that I am more interested in the pure mathematics than applied aspects (computational biology, cryptography, etc.). I want to pursue a career as analytic number theorist and prove the Collatz conjecture and Erdos-Straus conjecture.

I have been thinking about doing the number-theory research on my university (research university; huge mathematics department). I have been self-studying the NT by myself and also regularly attending the professional and graduate seminars on number theory but I did not do any pure mathematics research as an undergraduate. Should I visit NT professors in my university and ask them about if I can do undergraduate research under them? If research is not possible (perhaps due to my lacking maturity), should I request of doing independent reading under them and later proceed with the research? How should I ask them? What should I address? If even independent reading is not desirable to them, what should I ask to them or do in my own?

As for my mathematical background, I have been taking Calculus II (computational) and discrete mathematics. I will be taking calculus III (vector calc.) on Summer, followed by Analysis I, Probability, Theoretical Linear Algebra on Fall 2015. As for my self-studying on this semester, I have been studying NT textbooks (mentioned above), proof methodologies, and basic linear algebra.

Thank you very much for your time, and I look forward to your advice!

PK
 
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Talking to your professors would be a good start, have you broached the topic with your current calculus 2 professor? He may be able to point you in the right direction, or at least introduce you to the appropriate faculty who have may have some work for you.
 
Thanks for the suggestion. I did not discuss with my Calculus II or discrete mathematics professors since I am quite familiar with my university's NT professors through the NT seminars for both professionals and graduate students. I am going to basically walk up to their offices during their office hours and requesting for the undergraduate research/independent reading. My questions are what should I address and if I should propose to do a semester of independent reading course under him and start the research under him after completing such course. What can I do independently?
 
If I were in your position, I would approach a number of professors and ask for their advice. If you are sincere and enthusiastic and clear about your ambition then I think you'll find they have some good ideas for you. Some of those ideas might involve research...
 
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IGU said:
If I were in your position, I would approach a number of professors and ask for their advice. If you are sincere and enthusiastic and clear about your ambition then I think you'll find they have some good ideas for you. Some of those ideas might involve research...

Right. Just approach the professors and tell them you're interested in number theory and would like to do some (undergrad) research. They will then start giving advice. That advice might consist of doing some reading or might consist of doing research immediately (unlikely).
 
Thank you all for very helpful advice! I am actually going to visit couple of NT professors on tomorrow during their office hours. I am planning to address the issue as independent reading (if it is needed) first and then proceed with the research under one of them.
 
micromass said:
Right. Just approach the professors and tell them you're interested in number theory and would like to do some (undergrad) research. They will then start giving advice. That advice might consist of doing some reading or might consist of doing research immediately (unlikely).

How do you find problems that will be suitable for an undergrad though? Like say I'm interested in an area how do I go about looking for problems that would even be possible for an undergrad? I'd rather see a taste of various problems that I could tackle and then bring it to an adviser that I'm interested in this problem and ask for advice on how to go about investigating it.

I'm curious if their is like a database of certain problems that people haven't had a chance to figure out yet(but more then likely could be solved given enough time) that would be suitable for an undergrad.

It seems doing undergrad research in math is much harder then in the sciences where you can get work in a lab pretty easily.
 
Loststudent22 said:
How do you find problems that will be suitable for an undergrad though?

You go to your advisor and (s)he will present some problem that you might be able to tackle. You're not supposed to find problems on your own at this stage. You don't have the experience or the knowledge.
 
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bacte2013 said:
I want to pursue a career as analytic number theorist and prove the Collatz conjecture and Erdos-Straus conjecture.
What is special about these problems to you? I used to want to be the guy who came up with a theory of quantum gravity, but then I realized that there was nothing really special about this problem except that it was famous.
 

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